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Doug,
excellent brain-dump of all your knowledge

a couple of questions:

why make the partitions for the swap file primary ? I have never done this
but I'd have thought WinNT wouldn't be able to see the partitions.

how do you make the NT paging file size *fixed*? The only options i see in
the virtual memory dialog box on NT are for Initial Size and Maximum Size -
actually I can answer that - you make them the same, right?

thanks
Adam


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Forman <doug@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Kent Rollins <kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; OmegaList <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 7:07 AM
Subject: RE: Defragging Win NT


>Greetings, list-readers!
>
>As someone who actually has set up hundreds of systems, here's what works
>for me (your milage may very):
>
>1.  I *always* set up a PRIMARY partition JUST for my swap file.  This is
>true whether or not I'm setting up Win95/98/NT/2k.
>
>2.  If there is more than one hard disk in the system, I *always* evenly
>split the swap file across dedicated primary partitions on the non-boot
>drive(s).
>
>3.  I *always* set my swap file size as a FIXED size equal to 1.5 * memory.
>
>Example:  System has one 10gb drive, 128m memory.  Create 2 primary
>partitions (usually use PartitionMagic): Partition 1 = 9.8 gb, Partition 2
=
>197 mb (size of swap file is 128m * 1.5 = 192m, hard disk partition *must*
>be 5mb larger than swap file size)
>
>Fixed size swap files on dedicated partitions do not fragment.
>
>A fragmented swap file will damage performance far more than any other
>fragmented file.
>
>I always make the swap file partition the last partition, whether on one or
>many drives.
>
>(If you're using NT40, you'd need to set up a 2gb partition to install NT,
>it doesn't like booting to a partition greater than 2gb...  so in the
>example above, there would be 3 primary partitions:  2gb, 6.8gb & 197mb)
>
>I *always* install whatever the current version of Diskeeper is.  I start
>out by doing a boot-time defragment run, followed by configuring it using
>"set it and forget it" to defragment once per 24 hours during the late
>night.
>
>The other defragmenters are interesting, but only one of them (Raxco's
>PerfectDisk) has it's roots in mainframe computers as Diskeeper does.
>Diskeeper is the defragmenter that Microsoft wish it built, so in true M$
>style, they licensed it in Win2000.  It's solid, mature, reliable and
>trouble-free.  "It just works."
>
>Craig Jensen, President of Executive Software (makers of Diskeeper)
>literally "wrote the book" on fragmentation in 1994:  "Fragmentation: the
>Condition, the Cause, the Cure" can be ordered from the Diskeeper website
>for $29.95, or can be read for free on-line at:
>http://www.execsoft.com/fragbook/.  Short take:  these folks KNOW what
>they're doing.
>
>Summary:
>Separate partion for swap file - fixed swap file size: 1.5 * RAM - not on
>boot drive if other drives available - Diskeeper on auto-pilot.
>
>My clients are 98% financial institutions.  This configuration has proven
>successful for very reliable 24/7 operations that they require.
>
>Hope this helps someone  :-)
>
>Doug
>
>-----
>Doug Forman, MCSE (doug@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>Incline Systems, Inc. - Vancouver, WA
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kent Rollins [mailto:kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 9:03 PM
>> To: OmegaList
>> Subject: Re: Defragging Win NT
>>
>>
>> NT's swap file is called PAGEFILE.SYS and is located in the root
directory
>> of your boot drive.  It is used basically the same way 98 uses it's swap
>> file.  The reason they suggest creating a separate partition for it is to
>> prevent it from becoming fragmented over time.  This is a valid strategy
>> (although until I see some benchmarks I am still dubious of the
>> improvement
>> in performance) and most unix installations are set up this way.
>>
>> Kent
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark J. Cerar <mcerar@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Sunday, September 19, 1999 9:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Defragging Win NT
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any comments about using the following Hard Disk fine
>> tuning technique to reduce defragmentation in WinNT?
>>
>> Set up a logical partition at the beginning of your hard drive to
>> about 150%
>> of your RAM and then put the Windows Swap file on this partition.
>>
>> I saw this tip on ZDNet a while ago (without any reference to a
particular
>> version of Windows) but it does sound interesting.  I don't even know if
>> Windows NT uses a swap file in the same way as Win9X.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>>
>