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Re: Good Data - Bad Data ?



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> >> DIRTY DATA + GOOD SYSTEM = LOSS
> >> ( you can't take Ferrari off road , won't work)
> 
> not  that i don't like perfect data as much as the next person. but if
> good  data is necessary to make profits - how then would you explain a
> system  like  oddball which uses data from not only a different series
> than the one being traded but a different exchange as well?

don't you think that even a simple data error like a digit shift in A D data would not 
send oddball ricocheting off the wall?

> 
> some  "expert"  one  called the other day to "tell me" ask me if i had
> considered  the effects of the week of triple witching. he dictated to
> me that he had a policy of setting out of the market during that week.
> supposedly  the market will treat you nasty and whip around taking all
> your money, making systems wither into crap.

wouldn't you think that triple witching data AD issues can fluctuate 
a bit more then on the regular trading day?

> 
> i kept asking how can oddball be manipulated when it does not even get
> its  signals  off the market it trades? if the conspiracy is that big,
> that  you can get every trader in the world to agree to something then
> enlighten me. i think the model will survive as is because it's as big
> as  the  market  is.  plus  the  gut  wrenching  it  puts  you through
> eliminates most would be users.

i don't think oddball can be manipulated, it catches the "macro" market 
dynamics and bandwagon nature of buying and selling... 
timing the overall market based on AD issues ain't so uncommon.
there are other systems out there that try to catch buying and selling 
in whatever form it may be measured... typically options data, open 
interest data, ad data, etc...


> 
> besides   while  everyone  is  looking  at  historical  validation  of
> performance,  i  would  "stupidly"  suggest  that superior minds "read
> computers"  suggest  that  some  pilots may be jockeying time machines
> which  in  retrospect  the  public  may rationalize as self fulfilling
> market  behavior  and  continue  to  be blissfully happy as the public
> often is. if you know what i just said then you are smarter than i ;-)

don't you think that a sophisticated trading system is not an equivalent of a time machine?
it's telling you with whatever accuracy what will happen T + n  time in the future 
in price-time space isn't it? 
bilo.



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> Have a Great Day, Mark
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> http://www.markbrown.com
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