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Neo:
 
Not sure I understand your question.  The listed 
reserves are the proven reserves in the ground on U.S. territory.  Future 
estimates are a range since it depends on how much exploration you want to 
do.  Go back and look at reserves for the past 50 years or more.  
Remarkably constant, reflecting exploration activities that are kept at a level 
to maintain a desired reserve buffer.
 
Of course all natural resources are finite, including 
the sun.  But resource data and technological know-how do not support panic 
at this time.  That is not to say that we should not be moving toward 
increased energy efficiency, non-fossil fuels, and other technologies.  The 
reality, I suspect, is that such movement will emerge in response to some type 
of crunch.  Mankind has always used the richest natural resources and then 
moved to poorer grades only when necessary.  To some extent that is the 
case with energy also.  As a result, one can, for example, make a case for 
a bright future for energy-rich countries such as Russia, if they don't 
screw it up in some other way.  But until a crunch starts to develop, and 
maybe it has, that moves the government to provide leadership in terms 
of a meaningful energy policy most words will be somewhat 
empty.
 
Bill 
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  neo 
  To: <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:57 
  PM
  Subject: Natural Gas and other natural 
  resources
  
  <SPAN 
  class=560564401-14092001>Bill
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  <SPAN 
  class=560564401-14092001>Interesting figures. My concern is more available 
  potential supply in the ground in US territory. Any idea of the amount in 
  1980, 1990, and 2000 as well as estimates (with increasing consumption) for 
  2010 and 2020?
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  <SPAN 
  class=560564401-14092001>Ultimately I do not believe that our society is 
  sustainable. We are using natural resources and destroying the ecosystem of 
  the planet that will ultimately lead to our own destruction. Hope I am wrong 
  but this is the way I see it.
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  <SPAN 
  class=560564401-14092001>neo
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    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
    Behalf Of wavemechanicSent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:13 
    PMTo: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: Stand proud, 
    America!
    Neo:
     
    Here are the figures:
     
    Reserves (10^12 m^3) at end of 
    year:
     
        
    5.4 (1980)
        
    4.71 (1990)
        4.74 
    (2000)
     
    Consumption (10^11 m^3) at end of 
    year:
     
        5.4 
(1980)
        6.2 
(1990)
        6.5 
(2000)
     
    Production (10^11 m^3) at end of 
    year:
     
        5.1 
(1980)
        5.4 
(1990)
        5.6 
(2000)
     
    So reserves and production have been held constant 
    while consumption and imports increased.  Given the fact that reserves 
    are not infinite, this does not sound like a sensible way to go, i.e., use 
    the other guys reserves before your own.  But also, don't forget that 
    there is a huge reserve of gas locked up in the form of coal.  
    Actually, probably a good way to use the large reserves of low caloric value 
    coal.
     
    As for shipping, natural gas can be shipped like 
    oil and, in fact, is shipped all over the world in liquefied form.  The 
    U.S. currently obtains about 5% of its requirements in this 
    manner.
     
    Solar, wind, geothermal, ocean tides, etc. are 
    certainly other alternatives.  But there is no free lunch there 
    either.  For example, how much space are we willing to turn over to 
    solar panel farms, which are not the prettiest things around?  Or to 
    windmill farms?  (Wisconsin did a study and the acreage required to 
    replace a fossil or nuclear power plant is significant.)  How much of 
    our land are we willing to devote to such usage?  Where will such farms 
    go?  How cost competitive does alternative energy have to be?  
    Etc., etc.  Certainly valid questions for governmental studies, but to 
    the best of my knowledge no answers at the present time.  Then again we 
    have gone for many, many years without an energy strategy or governmental 
    leadership so the absence of answers is not 
surprising.
     
    Bill
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      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
      neo 
      To: <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 
      4:47 PM
      Subject: RE: Stand proud, 
      America!
      AlI did not mean short term. I was talking about 
      years not months. The US isrunning out of fossil fuels. I believe the 
      US receives about 30% of it'snatural gas from Canada. Natural gas 
      cannot be shipped like oil (where theUS cannot meet it's own needs and 
      is dependent on OPEC). The US must moveaway from fossil fuels and 
      towards nuclear, solar, and wind. The otherconsideration of course is 
      the carbon dioxide produced.If you have the forecasts on the 
      abundance of natural gas that the US hasfor many years ahead I would 
      like to see it.The US runs on energy and cannot afford to be so 
      dependent on OPEC.neop.s. I agree that more spies are 
      needed out in the field~  -----Original 
      Message-----~  From: <A 
      href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Al Taglavore~  
      Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:03 PM~  To: <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      Subject: Re: Stand proud, America!~~~  neo> "...The US 
      is almost out of natural gas.....~~  This is totally 
      incorrect.  The demand has increased for this~  clean 
      burning~  fuel, and the exploration and production has increased 
      to meet demand.~  Check the futures markets, check the annual 
      reports for natural gas~  companies as to their increase of 
      supply (this can be done by reading the~  reports from the 
      companies websites).~  ----------~  > From: neo 
      <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>~  > 
      To: <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      > Subject: RE: Stand proud, America!~  > Date: Thursday, 
      September 13, 2001 6:57 AM~  >~  > John~  
      >~  > I agree totally. France generates 80% of it's 
      electricity from nuclear~  > power. The US is almost out of 
      natural gas. We should move to nuclear~  power.~  > 
      This is one of the biggest national defense issues the US has.~  
      >~  > neo~  >~  >~  > 
      ~  -----Original Message-----~  > ~  From: <A 
      href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      > ~  [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John 
      Adair~  > ~  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:13 
      PM~  > ~  To: <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      > ~  Subject: RE: Stand proud, America!~  > 
      ~~  > ~~  > ~  Terrorism will persist as long 
      as we finance it with our~  > ~  purchase of oil. 
      We~  > ~  Must start a massive project to become 
      independent of the~  Middle East~  oil~  > 
      ~  producers.  We must  develop alternative energy sources. 
      Osama~  > ~  will return~  > ~  to 
      finish the job he started. Eliminate The USA and Israel.~  > 
      ~~  > ~  -----Original Message-----~  > 
      ~  From: <A 
      href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      > ~  [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On~  > 
      ~  Behalf Of neo~  > ~  Sent: Wednesday, September 
      12, 2001 7:29 PM~  > ~  To: <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      > ~  Subject: RE: Stand proud, America!~  > 
      ~~  > ~  Glen~  > ~~  > ~  I 
      do not think she was talking about Canada. Canada and the US 
      are~  very~  > ~  close. It is many of the other 
      countries.~  > ~~  > ~  Look at Palestine. 
      The US has done everything it could do~  to get them~  
      a~  > ~  county back and they were dancing in the streets 
      when this~  > ~  happened. The US~  > ~  
      went to liberate Kuwait and yet in Saudi Arabia people were~  
      > ~  dancing in the~  > ~  streets. The US is in 
      a recession and OPEC just keeps their oil~  > ~  prices 
      high~  > ~  which strangles the US economy.~  
      > ~~  > ~  neo~  > ~~  > 
      ~~  > ~  ~  -----Original Message-----~  
      > ~  ~  From: <A 
      href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~  
      > ~  ~  [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of 
      Glen Wallace~  > ~  ~  Sent: Wednesday, September 
      12, 2001 7:11 PM~  > ~  ~  To: MetaStock 
      listserver~  > ~  ~  Subject: Re: Stand proud, 
      America!~  > ~  ~~  > ~  ~~  
      > ~  ~  > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans 
      raced to the help~  > ~  ~  of the other~  
      > ~  ~  > people in trouble.    Can you 
      name me even one time when~  > ~  ~  someone else 
      raced~  > ~  ~  > to the Americans in 
      trouble?  I don't think there was outside~  > ~  
      ~  help even~  > ~  ~  > during the San 
      Francisco earthquake.~  > ~  ~~  > ~  
      ~  For shame.  Canada continually and consistently aids 
      its~  > ~  ~  neighbour, and vice~  > 
      ~  ~  versa.  Canada has sent medical personnel to New York 
      yesterday~  > ~  ~  and today,~  > 
      ~  ~  and blood collection services even here in the west 
      are~  > ~  ~  overwhelmed.  If I set~  
      > ~  ~  my mind to it, I'm sure I could name 5,000 times when 
      Canada did~  help.~  > ~  ~  Here's a 
      few  --  the forest fires in north western U.S. this~  
      > ~  ~  summer, the Exxon~  > ~  ~  
      Valdez clean-up, the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, the ice storms in~  
      > ~  ~  north eastern~  > ~  ~  U.S. 
      (and Canada) in 1998.  I don't want to hear any more of~  
      > ~  ~  this crap; take~  > ~  ~  it 
      off-list.~  > ~  ~~  > ~  ~~  
      > ~~  > 
~~