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> >The Brazilian ethanol production is 8x more energy efficient than corn
> >ethanol.
> 
> Interesting, I didn't know that.  I wonder what's different about
> growing and harvesting corn that makes sugar cane more economical?

I believe there are several factors:

* Growing sugar cane is a less energy-intensive process than growing corn.

* Sugar cane contains more sugar than corn.  :-)  The ethanol process 
converts sugar into ethanol, so a high-sugar source is more efficient.  Corn 
contains starches that must first be converted into sugars, and this cuts the 
efficiency by about 30%.

> I observe, also, that the whole political push behind ethanol is
> based on the idea of U.S. energy independence.  We rely on the
> middle east now for oil; switching to relying on Brazil for ethanol
> doesn't really solve the dependency problem.  

I don't think we could.  Brazil consumes most of its ethanol production and 
still consumes 2,000,000bbl/day of oil.  Even so, it exports about 1 billion 
gallons (not barrels) of ethanol a year -- still a drop in the bucket compared 
to the US energy demand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil has more info, including a 
claim that Brazillian ethanol production has an energy balance of 8-10.  Not 
sure how accurate the "up to 35x" claim is.

> I suppose the U.S. could ramp up its sugar cane production, though it
> would be at the expense of other crops. 

I believe efficient cane production requires tropical or subtropical conditions, 
which are not well met in the US other than Hawaii and maybe Florida.  We 
can grow sugar beets but I suspect that suffers from the same expensive 
growing process that corn does.

Gary