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Re: Re[2]: OT- Dell Dimension, Celeron vs Pentium 4



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I have been running amd chips for about 8 years with no problems with the
myriad of software that is running on 7 different computers.  No problems
with heat or noise.  I did test a refurbished Dell laptop 2.4 gig pentium,
and although it was quiet and reasonably fast it got extremely hot, burn
your fingers hot.  The price for the Dell refurb was about 1500 with a 20
gig hd and 256 ram which was more than an hp laptop with 40 or 60 gig hd I
forget which and 512 ram everything else was the same except the amd chip
which was faster on all business apps.  I have an old compaq presario 7478
that I bought as a refurb in 96 or 97 I think, and it is still working
great, other than it is slow by todays standards it has a 500 chip.  It is
now doing book keeping and research when needed, quiet and cool.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ivo Karindi" <ivo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Gary Fritz" <fritz@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: Re[2]: OT- Dell Dimension, Celeron vs Pentium 4


>
> GF> I've found that AMD chips run extremely hot.  A slight error when
> GF> installing a heat sink (didn't get perfect contact) resulted in
> GF> an instantly-fried XP1700+.  Even with several noisy fans and a
> GF> heavy-duty heatsink, the CPU still runs more than 55degF above
> GF> ambient with no load, and another 15-20deg hotter under load.  I
> GF> can quite literally heat my 12x15' office with the heat from my
> GF> Athlon system.
>
> According to sites like www.tomshardware.com latest Pentiums nowadays
> are supposed to run hotter than AMD cpu-s as their clock speed is
> higher for similar performance levels. Specifically, from this
> http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041015/index.html article:
>
> "Furthermore, Intel has other reasons to accelerate alternative
> cooling technologies. One reason we are already very familiar with is
> the current Pentium 4 Prescott that still today is the record holder
> in terms of leakage power and thermal loss. While this is not a
> problem for Intel's silicon (the specification allows for a thermal
> design power of up to 115 W), it causes a lot of headaches for DIY
> users, since both the processor and the voltage regulators will
> contribute in heating up your whole system."
>
> Also, for a low-noise/low-temperature solution, it is relatively easy
> to *underclock* a processor, or use a laptop processor if max
> performance is not a requirement.
>
> Ivo Karindi
>
>


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