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Re: Buying without selling



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First of all, I've taken your idea and used it in the system so I am now 
dealing with 1 and 2 contracts rather than just 1 and this has produced very 
interesting results.

Secondly, leaving aside the practical difficulties of being L&S in the 
market at the same time (ultimately, I was hoping the two systems would 
combine to produce an overall L or S position when their paths cross but 
that seems quite difficult to implement), you can make money running two 
systems which can be L&S at the same time like this: Assume a L position and 
the market goes up and then triggers a S position. The market then moves 
down to a middle point making both sides profitable. That isn't exactly how 
my system worked but sometimes that happened.

Cheers,
Ian

> > Ah! A most intriguing idea which I have implemented and which
> > works better than my original code (although not as well as
> > running the two systems concurrently). 
> 
> ??  As mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx pointed out, an actual broker/FCM would 
> interpret a Buy followed by a Sell as a closed-out position, even if 
> you intended it to be a long in one system and a short in another.
> 
> Profit-wise and in just about any other way I can think of, going 
> flat in a commodity is functionally identical to being simultaneously 
> long AND short in that commodity.
> 
> So how could your system work better by running two systems 
> concurrently (holding simultaneous long & short positions) than by 
> netting out the positions?
> 
> I suspect you have an error or a misunderstanding somewhere...
> Gary
>