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Wrong Neal, get your facts straight.

We (NASA) understood the lunar gravitational anomaly called Masscons and
targeted (what we thought was a good flat, smooth landing area from the
available lunar satellite
photography) a landing site in the Sea of Tranquillity. We got very close to
the intended LZ.  But when Neal Armstrong approached the target site he
looked out the window and saw it was strewn with many boulders and large
rocks "the size of a VW" (Neal's own words) and so they had to continue
further downrange to a less hazardous landing site. This extended hover time
burned more propellant. This plus propellant slosh in the reduced lunar
gravity environment caused the low fuel warning sensor to come on earlier
than expected.  At mission control we almost all had heart failure at the
close call.  Post flight analysis after Apollo 12 (the next mission)
revealed propellant slosh caused a false reading low level warning light on
both missions so we fitted ring baffles in the LM tanks.

We nailed every landing site for all lunar landing missions (except of
course Apollo 13).  On Apollo 12, we landed a few hundred feet from the
unmanned lunar lander.  An incredible feat of trajectory and navigation
analysis and execution.

I rest my case.  ...   Marlowe



----- Original Message -----
From: Neal T. Weintraub <ntw@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Marlowe Cassetti <marlowec@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: Stochastics


> Be real/ You know the original mission to the Moon missed the target area
> and nearly wrecked the mission.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marlowe Cassetti <marlowec@xxxxxxx>
> To: Jerry Gress <thegress@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Omega List
<omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Stochastics
>
>
> > I really dislike the use of the term stochastics for this indicator.  It
> has
> > nothing to do with stochastics.  Stochastics relates to a statistical
> > process.
> > During the Apollo program at NASA my team performed stochastic studies
to
> > determine the variance of everything from orbital parameters to
> consumables.
> > It was a key ingredient to the success of the manned exploration of the
> > Moon.
> >
> > Years later as I began to study technical analysis of securities I was
> > excited to learn that there was a statistical type of indicator called
> > stochastics.  As I examined the formula I concluded it was bogus and
> didn't
> > have anything to do with stochastics.  My other big gripe is the
momentum
> > indicator.  It has nothing to do with the physical property of mass
times
> > velocity.
> >
> > Now that I have vented my disgust, I'm relieved to learn that Lane named
> his
> > indicator after a book title.  Good move George.  It is good that he
isn't
> > taking this stuff seriously.
> > But what turkey confused price rate of change with momentum?
> >
> > Now don't get me started on the simple moving average.
> >
> > Marlowe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jerry Gress <thegress@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Omega List <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: Stochastics
> >
> >
> > > And the word stochastic, George Lane chose after a book titled "The
> > > Stochastic Man" (he could see the future) printed in ??
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry Gress
> > > Stockton, Calif. USA
> > > trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>