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Re: [Metastockusers] JO and Postings--A message to Friends and Family



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 --- david castley <drc1939@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jo
- please keep posting in whatever forum or format
> suits you. There are many of us who want to hear.
> Hopefully you will receive much pleasure knowing
> that your help and advice has assisted others. I
> have found that, in other areas where I have a
> little expertise, being in the fortunate position to
> teach or give or help others and seeing them
> progress because of it, is one of life's most
> rewarding experiences. Far beter than taking. Thanks
> for all your past posts and please keep them coming.
> Good luck, David.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: manohohman 
>   To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:05 AM
>   Subject: [Metastockusers] JO and Postings--A
> message to Friends and Family
> 
> 
>   I rejoined the group for today in order to clarify
> a few things and 
>   to thank the members who sent me the nice emails,
> including the 
>   members who asked me a 100 more questions before I
> stopped answering 
>   emails. 
> 
>   I may have a solution to the problems Im having
> with posting and 
>   answering the emails. It will save me a lot of
> time, allow me to 
>   share information, and make it easy for all of you
> to access it. 
> 
>   First of all, I'm not relinquishing my postings
> due to perceived 
>   conflicts with the king of SHILL hunting, Jay.
> After a word to Jay, I 
>   will explain what is going on and how I think I
> can solve it for 
>   those who have any interest in whatever I find
> that looks useful..  
> 
>   "Jay, I'm guessing you're a nice guy-maybe a
> little obsessed with 
>   hunting down what you perceive as evil-but nice.
> Of course that is a 
>   guess! Sometimes you're even positive and
> knowledgeable,  which I 
>   enjoy taking advantage of. "
> 
>   "Yes, Jay, I do get tired of the SHILL references,
> and I also think 
>   that all that does is diminish your credibility.
> However, it's your 
>   credibility to do with as you wish."
> 
>   By the way, Jay, if you think I'm wrong about the
> credibility issue, 
>   maybe some of the members of the site would be
> willing to provide 
>   their comments in a polite way that resembles
> useful feedback. If 
>   people think I'm a SHILL and Jay has rooted out a
> source of evil, 
>   well let's hear it. If you think Jay's approach is
> less than helpful, 
>   same thing. Let's hear it. You still haven't
> answered my question. 
>   Did you ask for that refund? 
> 
>   I admit some of the ranting and vitriolic comments
> bother me, not 
>   because they're opposed to what I am saying, but
> because they might 
>   discourage some of the newer users from trying a
> product that would 
>   help them. 
> 
>   When a product has a money back guarantee, each
> person should simply 
>   try it for themselves. A couple of people have
> said recently that ICE 
>   is one of their best plug-ins. As I've said so
> many times, at least 
>   half of stuff I've bought for MS has gone back
> because it did not 
>   work for me
> 
>   Aside from that issue, the reason I'm don't want
> to answer email and 
>   do postings is because of the time factor. There
> are only so many 
>   hours in the day. I get a number of emails asking
> for help. It's 
>   really impossible to help everyone. When I
> politely decline to help 
>   teach someone how to trade, or build a system, or
> whatever, I usually 
>   get a nasty email back telling me how selfish I
> am, or screw me, or 
>   worse.  Sure I get tired of that. Real tired of
> it. I would like to 
>   tell them what I think, but I was raised with
> manners.
> 
>   Unfortunately, email anonymity gives people
> license to say things 
>   that they never would say to you if they were
> sitting in front of 
>   you. I don't believe in that approach. I don't say
> things on this 
>   board or in emails I wouldn't tell you if you were
> talking directly 
>   to me. 
> 
>   As far as the postings go, most people would never
> believe how much 
>   time goes into those. Once a posting is up, this
> creates more 
>   questions, which is a reasonable expectation, and
> one I don't object 
>   to. But I get asked the same questions over and
> over. People don't go 
>   back and search the archives. For example, I've
> been asked what books 
>   I've read, what's the BEST trading book I've ever
> read, if a person 
>   could only read three books which three should
> they read, and it goes 
>   on. 
> 
>   I've been very lucky in life, and I've always been
> willing to share 
>   whatever I had that might help someone else. Doing
> that is very 
>   disappointing many times because very, very few
> people listen. They 
>   want advice that's quick, easy, free and that they
> like. If it meets 
>   all of these criteria, they might, and I mean
> might, follow the 
>   advice.  Well, advice rarely meets such a list; so
> few people ever do 
>   anything useful with anything you've told them.
> They want success but 
>   they don't want to do what it takes, including
> listen.
> 
>   The only return on investment I get from my time
> is to see people use 
>   something I've told them for good purposes. That's
> rare. 
> 
>   I would like to continue to share what I know,
> read or found without 
>   it being such a huge time drain. I think I can do
> that by writing 
>   various things in a longer format and posting the
> writing with the 
>   references, formulas and other stuff in the files
> section, if the 
>   moderator will let me. Then anyone who wants to
> read whatever I've 
>   contributed can go there and find it. That way I
> only have to post 
>   whatever once. 
> 
>   However, I guess I need to use disclaimers. While
> I do read 25 or 
>   more trading books a year, I do not now know, or
> will ever know, what 
>   the best 3 trading books are. I surely do not know
> which one is the 
>   best one for you to read. I will write a little
> review about each 
>   book and then you pick.
> 
>   Jay, I didn't write books: I don't own the
> publishing company that 
>   printed the book; I am not personal friends with
> the author; I am not 
>   being paid for my book reviews, and I don't move
> my lips when I read. 
>   Get it!
> 
>   Whenever I post a file I will post a note saying
> there's a file and 
>   telling you what's in it. If you feel like reading
> it, fine. If not 
>   fine!  
> 
>   However, I will not answer questions or respond to
> emails. I would 
>   like to, but I don't have the time. It's amazing
> how many emails some 
>   people send me just to ask one question. I really
> hear from some fine 
>   people from all over the world. How lucky do I
> feel-totally blessed. 
>   I wish I had the time to personally write each one
> a 
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