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[Metastockusers] JO and Postings--A message to Friends and Family



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I rejoined the group for today in order to clarify a few things and 
to thank the members who sent me the nice emails, including the 
members who asked me a 100 more questions before I stopped answering 
emails. 

I may have a solution to the problems Im having with posting and 
answering the emails. It will save me a lot of time, allow me to 
share information, and make it easy for all of you to access it. 

First of all, I'm not relinquishing my postings due to perceived 
conflicts with the king of SHILL hunting, Jay. After a word to Jay, I 
will explain what is going on and how I think I can solve it for 
those who have any interest in whatever I find that looks useful..  

"Jay, I'm guessing you're a nice guy—maybe a little obsessed with 
hunting down what you perceive as evil—but nice. Of course that is a 
guess! Sometimes you're even positive and knowledgeable,  which I 
enjoy taking advantage of. "

"Yes, Jay, I do get tired of the SHILL references, and I also think 
that all that does is diminish your credibility. However, it's your 
credibility to do with as you wish."

By the way, Jay, if you think I'm wrong about the credibility issue, 
maybe some of the members of the site would be willing to provide 
their comments in a polite way that resembles useful feedback. If 
people think I'm a SHILL and Jay has rooted out a source of evil, 
well let's hear it. If you think Jay's approach is less than helpful, 
same thing. Let's hear it. You still haven't answered my question. 
Did you ask for that refund? 

I admit some of the ranting and vitriolic comments bother me, not 
because they're opposed to what I am saying, but because they might 
discourage some of the newer users from trying a product that would 
help them. 

When a product has a money back guarantee, each person should simply 
try it for themselves. A couple of people have said recently that ICE 
is one of their best plug-ins. As I've said so many times, at least 
half of stuff I've bought for MS has gone back because it did not 
work for me

Aside from that issue, the reason I'm don't want to answer email and 
do postings is because of the time factor. There are only so many 
hours in the day. I get a number of emails asking for help. It's 
really impossible to help everyone. When I politely decline to help 
teach someone how to trade, or build a system, or whatever, I usually 
get a nasty email back telling me how selfish I am, or screw me, or 
worse.  Sure I get tired of that. Real tired of it. I would like to 
tell them what I think, but I was raised with manners.

Unfortunately, email anonymity gives people license to say things 
that they never would say to you if they were sitting in front of 
you. I don't believe in that approach. I don't say things on this 
board or in emails I wouldn't tell you if you were talking directly 
to me. 

As far as the postings go, most people would never believe how much 
time goes into those. Once a posting is up, this creates more 
questions, which is a reasonable expectation, and one I don't object 
to. But I get asked the same questions over and over. People don't go 
back and search the archives. For example, I've been asked what books 
I've read, what's the BEST trading book I've ever read, if a person 
could only read three books which three should they read, and it goes 
on. 

I've been very lucky in life, and I've always been willing to share 
whatever I had that might help someone else. Doing that is very 
disappointing many times because very, very few people listen. They 
want advice that's quick, easy, free and that they like. If it meets 
all of these criteria, they might, and I mean might, follow the 
advice.  Well, advice rarely meets such a list; so few people ever do 
anything useful with anything you've told them. They want success but 
they don't want to do what it takes, including listen.

The only return on investment I get from my time is to see people use 
something I've told them for good purposes. That's rare. 
 
I would like to continue to share what I know, read or found without 
it being such a huge time drain. I think I can do that by writing 
various things in a longer format and posting the writing with the 
references, formulas and other stuff in the files section, if the 
moderator will let me. Then anyone who wants to read whatever I've 
contributed can go there and find it. That way I only have to post 
whatever once. 

However, I guess I need to use disclaimers. While I do read 25 or 
more trading books a year, I do not now know, or will ever know, what 
the best 3 trading books are. I surely do not know which one is the 
best one for you to read. I will write a little review about each 
book and then you pick.

Jay, I didn't write books: I don't own the publishing company that 
printed the book; I am not personal friends with the author; I am not 
being paid for my book reviews, and I don't move my lips when I read. 
Get it!

Whenever I post a file I will post a note saying there's a file and 
telling you what's in it. If you feel like reading it, fine. If not 
fine!  

However, I will not answer questions or respond to emails. I would 
like to, but I don't have the time. It's amazing how many emails some 
people send me just to ask one question. I really hear from some fine 
people from all over the world. How lucky do I feel—totally blessed. 
I wish I had the time to personally write each one a book telling 
them whatever I know that might make their lives better in some small 
way----but I can't. 

If you have questions you can post them, and someone else on the 
board will answer them for you. That's support. 

Please don't tell me "you just want to pick my brain." Another name 
for a brain picker is a vulcher. I used to hear that a dozen times a 
day when I was speaking around the country.  Let me translate-- I'll 
buy you a cheap lunch so I can get 1000s of dollars of information 
from you for free! Wow, aren't I smart. No, a vulcher is hardly 
smart. My brain is not here for picking, it's here to help me make 
good choices in life, and if you pick it, it might not work anymore.
 
While I'm whinning--I correspond with Roy a few times a week. We 
exchange information. His information is more useful than mine. 
(While I know he can speak for himself) As you all know, he's a kind, 
generous and humble person. Do any of you have any idea how much mail 
he receives in a day? It's got to wear him out sometimes. He gets 
huffy email too. Can you imagine? Roy's manners make mine look crude. 
No one should ever say an unkind word to him, or slight him in 
anyway, because he gives so much and asks so little. Some people 
thank him, but many don't. Shame on you, if you're one of those who 
eat and run. 

If any of you think what I'm saying is arrogant—great. You can learn 
from arrogant people, especially ones that have been successful. 
Arrogant people who have failed can't teach you much except how to be 
an arrogant failure. Skip that class! 

If enough people express interest in having me share in this manner, 
this is what I will do. If the majority of people are not interested 
I won't waste my time. 

How simple can it get? 

There is one more thing I would like. There are too many lurkers on 
the MS sites. I get emails or read an occasional post from them 
that's wonderful. Where have you been? What's all this crap about not 
having anything to contribute? If you believe what you have told me 
that you like what I post and it's valuable---okay help me out. Let 
hear from you. 

There are too many questions by people who want to know elementary 
stuff that's in the manual or on the help screen. Read the book, use 
the help menu or call technical support. I don't think this site 
should be a substitute for Pring's how to use MS CDs.  Buy the CDs 
and use them. I did.  

Many really good questions get posted. A lot of good information gets 
exchanged. 

I am working on the Systems Tester problem. I've read a number of 
posts saying 7.2 is better. Okay, how is it better? Saying you get 
results from 7.2 you trust but not from 8.01 is BS. Give us the 
facts, not a vague opinion. I've had problems with 8.01 also. I have 
no idea if my problems are the same as yours. I don't know what yours 
are. I'm trying to find out what's wrong, and I'm going to do that. 
Does it have bugs—no doubt—should those bugs be causing the kind of 
problems I'm seeing—no way. 

I think by next week I'll have some ideas on what's going on. I've 
asked some long time MS users and some former Equis employees if 
they've seen any problems and they said no. That was a dead end. But 
I've got other sources of information I should have put together by 
next week. I'll let you know if I find anything. I hope so. I use the 
systems tester all the time. I hope I don't have to start over. 

Okay, this is long, I know. If the support is in favor of what I'm 
suggesting post your support. If you are not in favor that is good 
too, share it. You will be doing me a favor.

JO



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