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-------Original Message-------
From: DB
Date: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 03:13:26 PM
To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: off topic - ms word
The most terrible thing in Office 2000 and Office XP for Omega4 users is:
Setup programs of these packages replace a couple of DLLs that handle 16-bit
part of ODBC core and this makes impossible to run TS4 and SC4 normally. And
uninstall of the Office does not help - the files become the part of Windows
"core" and the situation may be cured only by clean re-install of Windows.
There is no chance that TRAD will fix their old packages to work correctly
on the machines with Office2k and OfficeXP, so DO NOT install these mostly
great packages to the machine with TS4/SC4. (Office97 is OK).
Happy New Year,
DB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <blink64@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "List, Omega" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: off topic - ms word
> "Were'nt Earlier versions (pre 2000) MDI ? till progress set in for
> 2000.."
>
> There are actually two stpuid "innovations" in Office 2000. The first was
> the collapsable menus. What a royal pain to have to exapnd you're menus
> every time you run the app. For those who like it (the minority I've
talked
> to) the feature should be an option or the last setting should be
> remembered. Really, it should be an option (in the same place in every
app
> so it's easy to find) in all office apps. Turn it on and off. I would
> definitely turn it OFF!
>
> The seocnd one is this one, SDI/MDI issue. I hate that one too. It
> clutters the task bar and despite nuerous features that try to give you a
> fast and easy way to identify which SDI document is the one you're looking
> for, you can never quite tell. And forget using Alt-tab to select your
> program with so many documents it's imposssible. With alt tab you can't
> even tell which word document is the one you want. At least on the task
> bar, they attempted to clue you in but it still is terrible.
>
> Office 97 was better in this respect. They should roll out those two
> features.
>
> Microsoft makes good software generally, but this is Microsoft at it's
> worse -- throwing in features for the sake of change. They do it in
windows
> and they're doing it in office. It's as if they have a committee devoted
to
> ways to change office just to make it different. If those two features
> really passed usability testing with flying colors I'd be really
surprised.
> They were probably some project manager's pet idea who forced them in with
> no usability testing whatsoever. No one in MSFT actually dare criticize
it
> because it was their job that was at stake.
>
> But who can blame them. Afterall, if something wasn't different, visibly
> different, why would people spend the money to upgrade?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC [mailto:carlandchristel@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:48 PM
> To: Judy Kettenhofen
> Cc: JerryWar; Rod.Grisham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Chris Cheatham';
> 'Omega List'
> Subject: Re[2]: off topic - ms word
>
>
> Hello Judy,
>
> Monday, December 31, 2001, 7:12:45 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> JK> I can hear the poor QA Engineer on msw2000 whose arguments
> JK> fell on deaf ears. Instead, ms actually had to publish the
> JK> software to believe that poor person.
>
> JK> Judy
>
> JK> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, JerryWar wrote:
>
> JK> #Amazing, absolutely correct. I never noticed that before.
> JK> #
> JK> #Jerry
> JK> #
> #>> -----Original Message-----
> #>> From: J. Rodney Grisham [mailto:Rod.Grisham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> #>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:58 PM
> #>> To: Chris Cheatham
> #>> Cc: Omega List
> #>> Subject: Re: off topic - ms word
> #>>
> #>>
> #>> Chris Cheatham wrote:
> #>>
> #>> > This is probably a dumb question...when I open multiple
> #>> files at the same
> #>> > time in ms word 2000, each file gets opened in a separate
> #>> copy of word,
> #>> > instead of as a window in one copy like it used to be.
> #>>
> #>> Sort of a technicality, but it is only one instance of Word. It's
> #>> just that every doc. gets its own window.
> #>>
> #>> > With a dozen files
> #>> > open it is a total pain. Anyone know if there is a way to fix this?
> #>>
> #>> There is no way in 2000; it is a Single Document Interface (SDI)
> #>> program only. MSW 2002 offers the option of either SDI or MDI
> #>> - M for multiple.
> #>>
> #>> Below there is a blurb from the web.
I solved the .dll problem by copying out all my 16 bit .dlls and then
installing Office and copying the old dlls back in seems they can both be
resident at the sme time. This is the same problem trying to run Office 97
and 2000 esp Access.
> #>>
> #>> Rod
> #>>
> #>> +++++++++++++++++
> #>>
> #>> When Microsoft introduced Office 2000, one of the more controversial
> #>> features was that Word and Excel were changed from Multiple Document
> #>> Interface (MDI) applications, where each document window was
> #>> contained inside the parent application window, to Single Document
> #>> Interface (SDI) applications, where each document occupied its own
> #>> window. A side effect of an SDI application is that each document
> #>> also gets its own button on the Windows taskbar, and you can easily
> #>> switch between documents using the standard ALT+TAB key combination.
> #>> However, some users found this new interface to be problematic,
> #>> because multiple Word documents could quickly clutter the taskbar.
> #>> In Word 2002, you can now optionally choose to use MDI mode again
> #>> if you're so inclined.
> #>>
> JK> #
> JK> #
>
> Were'nt Earlier versions (pre 2000) MDI ? till progress set in for
> 2000..
>
> --
> Best regards,
> CnC mailto:carlandchristel@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
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