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[EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish CMO3/DIA test setup.



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Tom,  Yes, I am located in Detroit. You can e-mail me at my e-mail 
address or post the suggestion here if public worthy.

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Rvalue1
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Thomas E Dancey" 
<tdancey5@xxx> wrote:
>
> rvalue1,
>  Are you located in Detroit?
> And what is your background in trading?
> I have a suggestion if you are interested
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: rvalue1 
>   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:11 PM
>   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish CMO3/DIA 
test setup.
> 
> 
>   Preston, Thanks, I think I can take this and take a look.
> 
>   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> wrote:
>   >
>   > rvalue1,
>   > 
>   > Does this work for you?
>   > 
>   > Preston
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
>   > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > {Standard Error Oscillator van Steve Karnish}
>   > > 
>   > > (C+2*STE(C,8)-Mov(C,3,S))/(4*(STE(C,8)))*100
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > This is the formula from Mr.Karnish webinar.
>   > > 
>   > > Kees T.
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: rvalue1 
>   > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:58 PM
>   > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
CMO3/DIA 
>   > test setup.
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > Preston, Could you code Steve's Standard error Channel 
system 
>   > that 
>   > > he presented as his second method in the presentation and 
put 
>   it 
>   > out 
>   > > on this forum? It would be much appreciated.
>   > > I liked the CMO3 on DIA. I think it has some real merit if 
>   > combined 
>   > > with stops etc as he suggested. But I think the second one 
had 
>   a 
>   > > better equity curve.
>   > > Thanks,
>   > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> 
>   wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Kees,
>   > > > 
>   > > > The first formula would produce the div error. I would at 
>   > least 
>   > > > correct it with the divisor sum method that Roy gave us.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Rather than a statue that would be exposed to birds and 
>   > radicals 
>   > > > could I just have a nice portrait. That way I wouldn't be 
>   > exposed 
>   > > to 
>   > > > the elements. :-)
>   > > > 
>   > > > Preston
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
>   > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > So I better change the one I found in Metastock ( see 
>   first 
>   > mail 
>   > > > beneath) for this CMO formula!
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Is there a spot in some country we can use to build you 
a 
>   > statue 
>   > > > Preston?
>   > > > > Not joking. I very much appreciate your enduring help.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Regards,Kees.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > N.B. I'll look over the ppt presentation this weekend.
>   > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > > > From: pumrysh 
>   > > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > > > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:23 AM
>   > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
>   > CMO3/DIA 
>   > > > test setup.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Here's another CMO formula.
>   > > > > It incorporates an idea from Roy inorder to avoid the 
Div 
>   by 
>   > > zero 
>   > > > > error. Also a link to another Karnish ppt presentation.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Preston
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > http://www.cedarcreektrading.com/momentum052306.ppt
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > {Chande Momentum Oscillator}
>   > > > > Periods:=Input("Periods",1,200,3);
>   > > > > Up:=Sum((C-Ref(C,-1))*(C>Ref(C,-1)),Periods);
>   > > > > Down:=Sum((Ref(C,-1)-C)*(C<Ref(C,-1)),Periods);
>   > > > > DS:=Up+Down;{divisor sum}
>   > > > > ChandeMo:=(Up-Down)/(DS+(DS=0))*100;
>   > > > > ChandeMo;{end}
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
>   > > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > O.K. Preston,
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Things are clear to me now.
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Thanks again for your support , your advice and your 
>   time.
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Regards, Kees.
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > > > > From: pumrysh 
>   > > > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:45 PM
>   > > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
>   > > CMO3/DIA 
>   > > > > test setup.
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Kees,
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Steve likes to feel very close to his indicators and 
>   often 
>   > > > > nicknames 
>   > > > > > them. The Chande Momentum Oscillator is a built-in 
>   > indicator 
>   > > > and 
>   > > > > is 
>   > > > > > sometimes called the CMO. Steve calls it CMO3 because 
he 
>   > > uses 3 
>   > > > > > lookback periods. You can call the built-in function 
by 
>   > > using 
>   > > > > > CMO(data,periods). If you should decide to write a 
>   custom 
>   > > > formula 
>   > > > > or 
>   > > > > > use Steve's long version, once it is named you would 
use 
>   > the 
>   > > > > formula 
>   > > > > > call like this: Fml("CMO3")
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > You could also use the built-in like this: CMO(C,3);
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Since we know there are division errors with the long 
>   > > version 
>   > > > of 
>   > > > > the 
>   > > > > > formula, I would simply use CMO(C,3); It is the same 
>   thing.
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Preston
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees 
Takkenberg" 
>   > > > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > > > > > >
>   > > > > > > Peston,
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > Thank you for your answers Preston.
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > So the "Sell short" was missing the Cross-function.
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > I understand I can write whatever a name I want the 
>   > > indicator 
>   > > > > to be?
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > Am I wrong in thinking that if I do not use the 
>   original 
>   > > > > indicator 
>   > > > > > formula in a setup I have to use the Fml ( " ") 
function?
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > Because I don' t understand that only "CMO" works .
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > Regards,Kees.
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > > > > > From: pumrysh 
>   > > > > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:59 PM
>   > > > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
>   > > CMO3/DIA 
>   > > > > > test setup.
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > Kees,
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > 1. Yes...but expect some division by zero errors 
with 
>   > this 
>   > > > > formula
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > 2. You could or you could write:
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > {CMO3}
>   > > > > > > {Steve Karnish's CMO}
>   > > > > > > CMO(C,3);
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > 3. Much shorter to write CMO(C,3) and not have to 
>   worry 
>   > > about 
>   > > > > the 
>   > > > > > > division error. 
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > 4. Sell short: Cross(CMO(C,3),opt1)
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > Preston
>   > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees 
>   Takkenberg" 
>   > > > > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > > > > > > >
>   > > > > > > > It seems I have some lack in fundamentel formulae 
>   > > > > > understanding. 
>   > > > > > > But I'm trying to do the test myself and I don't get 
>   it 
>   > > right!
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > E.g. the first rule is: Buy: Cross(-opt1,CMO(C,3))
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > In the indicatorbuilder I found this formula, wich 
>   is 
>   > > > > > > namend "Chande Momentum Oscillator".
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > 100*((Sum(If(C,>,Ref(C,-1),(C-Ref(C,-1)),0),14))-
(Sum
>   > (If
>   > > > > (C,<,Ref
>   > > > > > (C,-
>   > > > > > > 1),(Ref(C,-1)-C),0),14))) /((Sum(If(C,>,Ref(C,-1),(C-
>   Ref
>   > > (C,-
>   > > > > > 1)),0),14)
>   > > > > > > +(Sum(If(C,<,Ref(C,-1),(Ref(C,-1)-C),0),14))))
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > Question:
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > 1. Because of the 3 periods Mr.Karnish uses, 
should 
>   I 
>   > > > change 
>   > > > > > the 14 
>   > > > > > > into a 3?
>   > > > > > > > 2. Should I rename the "Chande Momentum 
>   > Oscillator"into 
>   > > CMO.
>   > > > > > > > 3. By doing so, the way to write the first rule 
(see 
>   > > above) 
>   > > > > > will 
>   > > > > > > than be : Cross(-opt1, Fml( "CMO")), because I am 
>   > > referring 
>   > > > to 
>   > > > > an 
>   > > > > > > indicator in the Indicatorlist?
>   > > > > > > > 4.Do I have to skip the (C,3)) because I already 
>   have 
>   > > > changed 
>   > > > > a 
>   > > > > > 14 
>   > > > > > > days period into a 3 one? Or must I see the "CMO"as 
a 
>   > > > complete 
>   > > > > > entity 
>   > > > > > > and set the "(C,3)" stil behind it?
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > When writing the third rule , Sell short: ( CMO
>   > > (C,3),opt1) 
>   > > > > into 
>   > > > > > the 
>   > > > > > > systemtester "Metastock" correct me over and over 
>   again.
>   > > > > > > > Is the word Cross missing here? Because Buy to 
cover 
>   > is 
>   > > > with 
>   > > > > > the 
>   > > > > > > Crossfunction and I should say to sell short is 
>   > triggered 
>   > > > when 
>   > > > > > the 
>   > > > > > > CMO crosses the above triggerline!
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > I would also say that I very much appreciate 
>   > Mr.Karnish 
>   > > > > webinar.
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > And to you all out there: I would really 
appreciate 
>   > your 
>   > > > help 
>   > > > > > on 
>   > > > > > > this.
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > Regards,
>   > > > > > > > 
>   > > > > > > > Kees Takkenberg
>   > > > > > > >
>   > > > > > >
>   > > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > >
>   > >
>   >
>




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