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Preston,  Thanks,  I think I can take this and take a look.

--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxx> wrote:
>
> rvalue1,
> 
> Does this work for you?
> 
> Preston
> 
> 
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
> <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
> >
> > {Standard Error Oscillator van Steve Karnish}
> > 
> > (C+2*STE(C,8)-Mov(C,3,S))/(4*(STE(C,8)))*100
> > 
> > 
> > This is the formula from Mr.Karnish webinar.
> > 
> > Kees T.
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: rvalue1 
> >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >   Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:58 PM
> >   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish CMO3/DIA 
> test setup.
> > 
> > 
> >   Preston, Could you code Steve's Standard error Channel system 
> that 
> >   he presented as his second method in the presentation and put 
it 
> out 
> >   on this forum? It would be much appreciated.
> >   I liked the CMO3 on DIA. I think it has some real merit if 
> combined 
> >   with stops etc as he suggested. But I think the second one had 
a 
> >   better equity curve.
> >   Thanks,
> >   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Kees,
> >   > 
> >   > The first formula would produce the div error. I would at 
> least 
> >   > correct it with the divisor sum method that Roy gave us.
> >   > 
> >   > Rather than a statue that would be exposed to birds and 
> radicals 
> >   > could I just have a nice portrait. That way I wouldn't be 
> exposed 
> >   to 
> >   > the elements. :-)
> >   > 
> >   > Preston
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
> >   > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > > So I better change the one I found in Metastock ( see 
first 
> mail 
> >   > beneath) for this CMO formula!
> >   > > 
> >   > > Is there a spot in some country we can use to build you a 
> statue 
> >   > Preston?
> >   > > Not joking. I very much appreciate your enduring help.
> >   > > 
> >   > > Regards,Kees.
> >   > > 
> >   > > N.B. I'll look over the ppt presentation this weekend.
> >   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > > From: pumrysh 
> >   > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >   > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:23 AM
> >   > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
> CMO3/DIA 
> >   > test setup.
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > Here's another CMO formula.
> >   > > It incorporates an idea from Roy inorder to avoid the Div 
by 
> >   zero 
> >   > > error. Also a link to another Karnish ppt presentation.
> >   > > 
> >   > > Preston
> >   > > 
> >   > > http://www.cedarcreektrading.com/momentum052306.ppt
> >   > > 
> >   > > {Chande Momentum Oscillator}
> >   > > Periods:=Input("Periods",1,200,3);
> >   > > Up:=Sum((C-Ref(C,-1))*(C>Ref(C,-1)),Periods);
> >   > > Down:=Sum((Ref(C,-1)-C)*(C<Ref(C,-1)),Periods);
> >   > > DS:=Up+Down;{divisor sum}
> >   > > ChandeMo:=(Up-Down)/(DS+(DS=0))*100;
> >   > > ChandeMo;{end}
> >   > > 
> >   > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
> >   > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
> >   > > >
> >   > > > O.K. Preston,
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Things are clear to me now.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Thanks again for your support , your advice and your 
time.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Regards, Kees.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > > > From: pumrysh 
> >   > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >   > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:45 PM
> >   > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
> >   CMO3/DIA 
> >   > > test setup.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Kees,
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Steve likes to feel very close to his indicators and 
often 
> >   > > nicknames 
> >   > > > them. The Chande Momentum Oscillator is a built-in 
> indicator 
> >   > and 
> >   > > is 
> >   > > > sometimes called the CMO. Steve calls it CMO3 because he 
> >   uses 3 
> >   > > > lookback periods. You can call the built-in function by 
> >   using 
> >   > > > CMO(data,periods). If you should decide to write a 
custom 
> >   > formula 
> >   > > or 
> >   > > > use Steve's long version, once it is named you would use 
> the 
> >   > > formula 
> >   > > > call like this: Fml("CMO3")
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > You could also use the built-in like this: CMO(C,3);
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Since we know there are division errors with the long 
> >   version 
> >   > of 
> >   > > the 
> >   > > > formula, I would simply use CMO(C,3); It is the same 
thing.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Preston
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
> >   > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > Peston,
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Thank you for your answers Preston.
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > So the "Sell short" was missing the Cross-function.
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > I understand I can write whatever a name I want the 
> >   indicator 
> >   > > to be?
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Am I wrong in thinking that if I do not use the 
original 
> >   > > indicator 
> >   > > > formula in a setup I have to use the Fml ( " ") function?
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Because I don' t understand that only "CMO" works .
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Regards,Kees.
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > > > > From: pumrysh 
> >   > > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >   > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:59 PM
> >   > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
> >   CMO3/DIA 
> >   > > > test setup.
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Kees,
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 1. Yes...but expect some division by zero errors with 
> this 
> >   > > formula
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 2. You could or you could write:
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > {CMO3}
> >   > > > > {Steve Karnish's CMO}
> >   > > > > CMO(C,3);
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 3. Much shorter to write CMO(C,3) and not have to 
worry 
> >   about 
> >   > > the 
> >   > > > > division error. 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 4. Sell short: Cross(CMO(C,3),opt1)
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Preston
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees 
Takkenberg" 
> >   > > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > > It seems I have some lack in fundamentel formulae 
> >   > > > understanding. 
> >   > > > > But I'm trying to do the test myself and I don't get 
it 
> >   right!
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > E.g. the first rule is: Buy: Cross(-opt1,CMO(C,3))
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > In the indicatorbuilder I found this formula, wich 
is 
> >   > > > > namend "Chande Momentum Oscillator".
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > 100*((Sum(If(C,>,Ref(C,-1),(C-Ref(C,-1)),0),14))-(Sum
> (If
> >   > > (C,<,Ref
> >   > > > (C,-
> >   > > > > 1),(Ref(C,-1)-C),0),14))) /((Sum(If(C,>,Ref(C,-1),(C-
Ref
> >   (C,-
> >   > > > 1)),0),14)
> >   > > > > +(Sum(If(C,<,Ref(C,-1),(Ref(C,-1)-C),0),14))))
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > Question:
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > 1. Because of the 3 periods Mr.Karnish uses, should 
I 
> >   > change 
> >   > > > the 14 
> >   > > > > into a 3?
> >   > > > > > 2. Should I rename the "Chande Momentum 
> Oscillator"into 
> >   CMO.
> >   > > > > > 3. By doing so, the way to write the first rule (see 
> >   above) 
> >   > > > will 
> >   > > > > than be : Cross(-opt1, Fml( "CMO")), because I am 
> >   referring 
> >   > to 
> >   > > an 
> >   > > > > indicator in the Indicatorlist?
> >   > > > > > 4.Do I have to skip the (C,3)) because I already 
have 
> >   > changed 
> >   > > a 
> >   > > > 14 
> >   > > > > days period into a 3 one? Or must I see the "CMO"as a 
> >   > complete 
> >   > > > entity 
> >   > > > > and set the "(C,3)" stil behind it?
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > When writing the third rule , Sell short: ( CMO
> >   (C,3),opt1) 
> >   > > into 
> >   > > > the 
> >   > > > > systemtester "Metastock" correct me over and over 
again.
> >   > > > > > Is the word Cross missing here? Because Buy to cover 
> is 
> >   > with 
> >   > > > the 
> >   > > > > Crossfunction and I should say to sell short is 
> triggered 
> >   > when 
> >   > > > the 
> >   > > > > CMO crosses the above triggerline!
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > I would also say that I very much appreciate 
> Mr.Karnish 
> >   > > webinar.
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > And to you all out there: I would really appreciate 
> your 
> >   > help 
> >   > > > on 
> >   > > > > this.
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > Regards,
> >   > > > > > 
> >   > > > > > Kees Takkenberg
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > >
> >   >
> >
>




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