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[EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish CMO3/DIA test setup.



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Does this work for you?

Preston



--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
<c.a.takkenberg@xxx> wrote:
>
> {Standard Error Oscillator van Steve Karnish}
> 
> (C+2*STE(C,8)-Mov(C,3,S))/(4*(STE(C,8)))*100
> 
> 
> This is the formula from Mr.Karnish webinar.
> 
> Kees T.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: rvalue1 
>   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:58 PM
>   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish CMO3/DIA 
test setup.
> 
> 
>   Preston, Could you code Steve's Standard error Channel system 
that 
>   he presented as his second method in the presentation and put it 
out 
>   on this forum? It would be much appreciated.
>   I liked the CMO3 on DIA. I think it has some real merit if 
combined 
>   with stops etc as he suggested. But I think the second one had a 
>   better equity curve.
>   Thanks,
>   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Kees,
>   > 
>   > The first formula would produce the div error. I would at 
least 
>   > correct it with the divisor sum method that Roy gave us.
>   > 
>   > Rather than a statue that would be exposed to birds and 
radicals 
>   > could I just have a nice portrait. That way I wouldn't be 
exposed 
>   to 
>   > the elements. :-)
>   > 
>   > Preston
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
>   > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > So I better change the one I found in Metastock ( see first 
mail 
>   > beneath) for this CMO formula!
>   > > 
>   > > Is there a spot in some country we can use to build you a 
statue 
>   > Preston?
>   > > Not joking. I very much appreciate your enduring help.
>   > > 
>   > > Regards,Kees.
>   > > 
>   > > N.B. I'll look over the ppt presentation this weekend.
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: pumrysh 
>   > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:23 AM
>   > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
CMO3/DIA 
>   > test setup.
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > Here's another CMO formula.
>   > > It incorporates an idea from Roy inorder to avoid the Div by 
>   zero 
>   > > error. Also a link to another Karnish ppt presentation.
>   > > 
>   > > Preston
>   > > 
>   > > http://www.cedarcreektrading.com/momentum052306.ppt
>   > > 
>   > > {Chande Momentum Oscillator}
>   > > Periods:=Input("Periods",1,200,3);
>   > > Up:=Sum((C-Ref(C,-1))*(C>Ref(C,-1)),Periods);
>   > > Down:=Sum((Ref(C,-1)-C)*(C<Ref(C,-1)),Periods);
>   > > DS:=Up+Down;{divisor sum}
>   > > ChandeMo:=(Up-Down)/(DS+(DS=0))*100;
>   > > ChandeMo;{end}
>   > > 
>   > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
>   > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > O.K. Preston,
>   > > > 
>   > > > Things are clear to me now.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Thanks again for your support , your advice and your time.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Regards, Kees.
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > > From: pumrysh 
>   > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:45 PM
>   > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
>   CMO3/DIA 
>   > > test setup.
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > Kees,
>   > > > 
>   > > > Steve likes to feel very close to his indicators and often 
>   > > nicknames 
>   > > > them. The Chande Momentum Oscillator is a built-in 
indicator 
>   > and 
>   > > is 
>   > > > sometimes called the CMO. Steve calls it CMO3 because he 
>   uses 3 
>   > > > lookback periods. You can call the built-in function by 
>   using 
>   > > > CMO(data,periods). If you should decide to write a custom 
>   > formula 
>   > > or 
>   > > > use Steve's long version, once it is named you would use 
the 
>   > > formula 
>   > > > call like this: Fml("CMO3")
>   > > > 
>   > > > You could also use the built-in like this: CMO(C,3);
>   > > > 
>   > > > Since we know there are division errors with the long 
>   version 
>   > of 
>   > > the 
>   > > > formula, I would simply use CMO(C,3); It is the same thing.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Preston
>   > > > 
>   > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
>   > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Peston,
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Thank you for your answers Preston.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > So the "Sell short" was missing the Cross-function.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > I understand I can write whatever a name I want the 
>   indicator 
>   > > to be?
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Am I wrong in thinking that if I do not use the original 
>   > > indicator 
>   > > > formula in a setup I have to use the Fml ( " ") function?
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Because I don' t understand that only "CMO" works .
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Regards,Kees.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > > > From: pumrysh 
>   > > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:59 PM
>   > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: About Mr.Karnish 
>   CMO3/DIA 
>   > > > test setup.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Kees,
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 1. Yes...but expect some division by zero errors with 
this 
>   > > formula
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 2. You could or you could write:
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > {CMO3}
>   > > > > {Steve Karnish's CMO}
>   > > > > CMO(C,3);
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 3. Much shorter to write CMO(C,3) and not have to worry 
>   about 
>   > > the 
>   > > > > division error. 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 4. Sell short: Cross(CMO(C,3),opt1)
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Preston
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kees Takkenberg" 
>   > > > > <c.a.takkenberg@> wrote:
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > It seems I have some lack in fundamentel formulae 
>   > > > understanding. 
>   > > > > But I'm trying to do the test myself and I don't get it 
>   right!
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > E.g. the first rule is: Buy: Cross(-opt1,CMO(C,3))
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > In the indicatorbuilder I found this formula, wich is 
>   > > > > namend "Chande Momentum Oscillator".
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > 100*((Sum(If(C,>,Ref(C,-1),(C-Ref(C,-1)),0),14))-(Sum
(If
>   > > (C,<,Ref
>   > > > (C,-
>   > > > > 1),(Ref(C,-1)-C),0),14))) /((Sum(If(C,>,Ref(C,-1),(C-Ref
>   (C,-
>   > > > 1)),0),14)
>   > > > > +(Sum(If(C,<,Ref(C,-1),(Ref(C,-1)-C),0),14))))
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Question:
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > 1. Because of the 3 periods Mr.Karnish uses, should I 
>   > change 
>   > > > the 14 
>   > > > > into a 3?
>   > > > > > 2. Should I rename the "Chande Momentum 
Oscillator"into 
>   CMO.
>   > > > > > 3. By doing so, the way to write the first rule (see 
>   above) 
>   > > > will 
>   > > > > than be : Cross(-opt1, Fml( "CMO")), because I am 
>   referring 
>   > to 
>   > > an 
>   > > > > indicator in the Indicatorlist?
>   > > > > > 4.Do I have to skip the (C,3)) because I already have 
>   > changed 
>   > > a 
>   > > > 14 
>   > > > > days period into a 3 one? Or must I see the "CMO"as a 
>   > complete 
>   > > > entity 
>   > > > > and set the "(C,3)" stil behind it?
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > When writing the third rule , Sell short: ( CMO
>   (C,3),opt1) 
>   > > into 
>   > > > the 
>   > > > > systemtester "Metastock" correct me over and over again.
>   > > > > > Is the word Cross missing here? Because Buy to cover 
is 
>   > with 
>   > > > the 
>   > > > > Crossfunction and I should say to sell short is 
triggered 
>   > when 
>   > > > the 
>   > > > > CMO crosses the above triggerline!
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > I would also say that I very much appreciate 
Mr.Karnish 
>   > > webinar.
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > And to you all out there: I would really appreciate 
your 
>   > help 
>   > > > on 
>   > > > > this.
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Regards,
>   > > > > > 
>   > > > > > Kees Takkenberg
>   > > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > >
>   > >
>   >
>




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