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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hello,
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If you
believe the Holy Grail exists, you will go broke.
If you
haven't already!
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Mark
Wattles
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owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Steve KarnishSent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:01
AMTo: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: hello, i must be
going (to the big city)
Mark,
I'm interested in how much time you have
"invested" in your quest for the grail? 10, 100, 10000, or 100000
hours? And, I believe you are partially right: "the Holy Grail does not
exist". There is not a Holy Grail...there are many Holy Grails.
Many traders put "blinders" on and are looking
for the "cup" that matches their imaginary illusion. The grail can be as
inconspicuous as a styrofoam, 6 oz. coffee cup...with lipstick stains.
I've seen the "grail" in many hands of
people that spent all their time praying for it's delivery/arrival...only to
be tossed aside for hundreds of silly reasons. Very few successful
mechanical traders are willing to share their work. I can understand
why.
Efforts to educate individuals is often met with
negative prejudices about the markets, indicators or style. When an
individual embraces a successful approach, many times they toss out
common sense (money management principals) because they are overcome by
greed.
I have tested thousands of mechanical
systems, and I guess I must admit that very few mechanical
systems work. But, very few things will start
my car. If I try starting it with a rock or a chunk of
wood...it's not successful. I could try to start it with thousands of
instruments...to no avail. On the other hand, give me a bag of keys and
a couple thousand hours and I will assure you I can get that thing to turn
over.
Mechanical systems start with sensitive
and reliable indicators. They then need to be framed by a set of rules
that objectively trigger trades. And finally, it all needs to be wrapped
in a neat package that addresses money management.
So, the Burger King styrofoam cup is OK by
me. In fact, my research has turned up discrepancies about the
history of the "grail". The biblical scholars that I talk with think
that maybe the last supper was a barbeque and the over the years, the
translations were a bit off. They believe we should be searching for the
"grill" (with "holes") in the bottom (the prototype of today's Weber).
Take care,
Steve Karnish, CTACedar Creek Trading<A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
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To: <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 6:18
AM
Subject: RE: hello from a newbie
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Newbie,
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regarding mechanical trading systems, the Holy Grail does not
exist.
If
it did, I would own the New York Stock Exchange.
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>PS
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Very, very, very few mechanical trading systems make
money.
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href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[<A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Herman van den BergenSent: Tuesday, October 16,
2001 7:20 AMTo: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re:
hello from a newbieThank you Maurice, for your
introduction, and welcome to the list!We have quite a variety of
traders on this list, some very good, some with 'almost' public' trading
systems and others who sound very successful and knowledgable but who
never talk about their systems. All in all a good bunch.Then there
are many like me, who are still struggling to get a system to work in all
markets ;-) and who once in awhile complain about the shortcomings of MS
and suggest using a standard programming language to do the job (not
easy). But, complains and bug reports are good discussions and can prevent
you from wasting a lot of time. There are other sources for MS
formulae and systems on the internet and you may want to browse these list
archives for some of the sites:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/equismetastock
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Metastockusershere are some sites
you might like to
visit:http://www.guppytraders.com/index.htmlhttp://www.cedarcreektrading.com/momenoscdef.htmhttp://www.paritech.com/education/technical/custom/default.asphttp://traderclub.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?107/107of
course there are more sites...Take care and happy
trading,HermanCanadaYou'll find a lot of MS expertise
here... support@xxxxxxxxx is also helpful and generally gives prompt
replies within a couple of days.At 05:13 PM 10/16/01 +0800,
you wrote:
>>>>Hello fellow
technicians,I
am a newcomer to this list and thought it would be polite to givea
brief self-intro. My
name is Maurice, am 34 years old, have been into TA since1995, and am
a fund manager in the Philippines. I currently useMetastock 6.52.I'm
a chart pattern trader first, and an indicator guy second. I don't
know much about the heavy math indicators and writingindicator code,
but I do have a keen interest in market / traderpsychology and
risk/money management approaches. I hopeto be able to some
contributions to this list, and am sure willlearn a lot from the many
fine minds present. May
the trend be with
you,Maurice<<<<
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