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Jim,
You're very clearer with that explanation about draw trend channel and we (
I ) appreciate and will be grateful if we ( I ) can see a chart example
with those lines to see togheter the theoric lesson with the chart
practical.
Regards
[],s J.Carlos 

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> From: Jim Greening <JimGinVA@xxxxxxx>
> To: J.F. DeWilder <jdewilder10151@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Metastock List
<MetaStock-List@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Weekly Pick
> Date: Sexta-feira, 4 de Julho de 1997 12:12
> 
> Jim,
>      If I'm long a stock in an up trend channel and the stock closes
below 
> that channel, I'll sell the stock the next morning.  I then erase the top
of 
> the channel and draw a Trader Vic type Horizontal Channel (HC) for the
trend 
> reversal test.  The Trader Vic HC top is draw with a horizontal line
through 
> the recent high.  The bottom is draw with a horizontal line through the 
> preceding minor low.  I wait for a breakout of the HC.  
>      If the stock breaks through the top of the HC, that is a trend
continues 
> signal and I'll redraw the bottom of the up trend channel form its
original 
> point through the last low.  I'll replace the top with a parallel line
through 
> a high which doesn't intersect any other data.  I usually won't take a
take a 
> new position in the stock here unless I really like it.  I prefer
entering on 
> short term trend reversals off the bottom of intermediate term up trend 
> channels.
>      If the stock breaks through the bottom of the HC, I'll construct a
Raff 
> Regression Short Term Down Trend channel.  This is the place Trader Vic
says 
> it's OK to short a stock.  Since the market is biased to the upside, I
require 
> more.  I'll only short if the short term trend reverses to the down side
and 
> the intermediate term trend is also down.  I also want the fundamentals
to be 
> bad - high PE, high debt, and negative earnings surprises.
>      In general, I like to trade when the short term trend reverses in
the 
> direction of both the intermediate and long term trends or when the 
> intermediate term trend reverses in the direction of the long term trend.
 I 
> prefer to enter a position shortly after the stock bounces off the
channel 
> wall, but will take a position when an intermediate term trend breaks.
>      Hope that was a little clearer.
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	J.F. DeWilder 
> Sent:	Thursday, July 03, 1997 9:03 PM
> To:	Jim Greening
> Subject:	Re: Weekly Pick
> 
> Jim Greening wrote:
> > 
> > >      I've found that the market likes to shake stops out by spiking
down
> > through a whole number and then rallying back up.  That's why I don't
like 
> to
> > set stops with my broker, but would rather use mental stops.  I set my 
> mental
> > stops at the 3/4 point below the trend line on long positions and
require 
> that
> > the stock closes below that stop.  Then I'll close the position the
next 
> day.
> > I have some friends that even require two or three closes below the
stop to
> > avoid being shaken out, but one is enough for me <G>.
> >      If a stock breaks out of a well defined intermediate or long term
up
> > trend and then continues up, I'll erase the top of the old up trend
channel
> > and start a new short term channel from the low before the breakout. 
For a
> > Raff Regression short term channel that hasn't been well confirmed,
I'll
> > stretch the channel.
> > 
> > Jim
> > Jim,
> 
> Thanks so very much for your advice. I was ( and still am to a certain 
> extent) using oscillators as I had described some months ago. Recently, 
> I had nmy lunch eaten when I shorted a stock. In retrospect, it looks 
> like I unknowlingly shorted into a long term uptrend. Oh well, live and 
> learn.
> 
> That, in a nutshell, sparked my interest in channel trading. I bought 
> both of Trader Vic's books, have read both of them, and am now in the 
> process of digesting the information. Your advice clarified some 
> confusion I previously had.
> 
> For a point of clarifciation, in my last question, I was assuming that 
> the stock broke the bottom of the uptrend channnel. From your answer, I 
> believe that you inferred that ...but I just wanted to make sure.
> 
> As I progress, I will ask some more questions, over the MetaStock 
> listserve, about channels. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
> 
> Jim