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RE: [RT] Another failed WolfeWave in WTLC



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Thanks, Earl.
Best
Georg

At 06:57 PM 09/15/2006, you wrote:
Can't make out the contract month and time interval on your chart but I can't match it with anything I have here, especially the relatively deep retracement at point #4. I wonder if it might be a continuous which would introduce a rollover price issue.
 
I'm attaching a chart of October CL daily with WW marked off. #3 is a nice 162% retracement of 1-2 providing strong down thrust, however #4 did not even reach a 38% retrace of 2-3 and that's where I think the problem lies with October CL. I would look for 50% minimum retrace which also violates #1. I scanned November and December and they appear to exhibit similar small #4 retracements.
 
I think what we've seen that not all descending/ascending triangles qualify. It seems that lots of volatility is needed in the swings which create the triangle and it needs to be rising/falling quite steeply.
 
Earl
 
-----Original Message-----
From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Georg Mayer
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:45 PM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] Another failed WolfeWave in WTLC

Good Morning:

I'm new here and hence first want to thank Bob for inviting me to RTs. Also thanks to Kate and Earl - apparently the WolfeWaves-doyen here - for their recent help and comments on my questions and charts. As you are well aware, I am not an expert in the matter at all, but have just started studying it in order to verify or to soon discard this approach. Here's another example favouring the latter:

More comments and ideas are much appreciated.

Nice day

Georg


From: EAdamy
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Fw: [RT] Wolfe Waves

My concerns regarding this particular WW pattern (as shown in Georg's chart) are two-fold and have been expressed previously. First, the #5 failed to follow-through on the first decline after rising above the upper TL following #4. Second, triangle patterns seem to have a high right of failure when price gets too close to the apex of the triangle. I think it began getting too close when the first decline above the upper TL failed to follow-through.
 
I am not familiar with the 1/4 steps and the boxes don't seem to be marked into quarters.
 
Earl

At 06:53 PM 09/13/2006, you wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: EAdamy
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: [RT] Wolfe Waves

As I suspected, point #3 on the ES was too shallow for the trendline at point #5 to offer any resistance. #3 on the NQ gave us a steeper line which offered a slight retracement at point #5, however point #4 failed to pull back into the body to a point below #1. Probably need a 162% retracement of #1-#2 at point #3 and a 50% retracement of #2-#3 at point #4. The wide swings required should be an indication of a blow-off in progress.
Finally, my golden rule is to never, ever trade against the tape when the AD volume ratio ((AD up - AD down) / (AD up + AD down)) on both NYSE and NASDAQ are running above 0.50.
Earl
 
-----Original Message-----
From: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of EAdamy
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:12 AM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RT] Wolfe Waves

This is a tale of two Wolfe Waves. All charts are 15 minute. Upper left is ES ... note the slope of the upper line which is so shallow that it fails to catch the really significant reversal retracements at 162% and 200% ... it will clearly have to exceed the upper line by quite a bit to reach the 1320 potential reversal area. Lower left is NQ ... note the slope of the upper line which is steep enough to catch the significant reversal retracement area around 1624 without a huge run above the upper line. On the right we have AD volume oscillators which are running overwhelmingly bullish. In my view, the NQ WW is far more likely to work.
Conclusion ... I believe it is important to have a fairly steep upper line in order for the WW to hit the extreme retracement zone required to offer a low-risk reversal. Let's see how it works out.
Earl
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