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Re: [RT] Fwd: Bond and S&P update



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We saw it several years back and we could see it 
again.  It is $3 oil that we will never see again in our life time.  
One can thank Henry Kissinger for that one. 
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  >From: 
  Mark Simms 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:47 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [RT] Fwd: Bond and S&P 
  update
  Bear market $18 crude oil....will we see that in our 
  lifetime ?> -----Original Message-----> From: topos8 
  [mailto:topos8@xxxxxxx]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:32 
  AM> To: <A 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  Subject: [RT] Fwd: Bond and S&P update>>> --- In <A 
  href="">gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
  "topos8" <topos8@x...> wrote:> I 
  last updated my bond and stock forecasts in GG# 26884, May 13, 
  2004.>> At the moment my square of 9 calculations say that the 
  S&P's will> make a low at 1055 this week and then rally to or above 
  the 1200> level.>> The market has completed the three 
  peaks part of a George Lindsay> style, "three peaks and a domed house 
  formation" (March, April and> June are the three peaks in the S&P) 
  and the current break is the> separating decline. Normally the 
  subsequent rally that traces out the> domed house part of the pattern 
  ends the bull market and also ends> what Lindsay called a basic 
  advance. However, my calculations using> Linday's guidelines say that 
  the current basic advance began in March> 2003 and is likely to last 
  into the second half of 2005. Even an 8> month rally (the typical 
  duration of a "domed house" rally) from a> low now would not last into 
  the second half of 2005.>> I think this conflict will be 
  resolved in one of two ways.>> The first way is the pattern I 
  have been expecting for the past year.> In this pattern the March top 
  is iself only the first peak of a> larger three peaks formation that 
  lasts through the end of 2004; in> this scenario the second peak still 
  lies ahead (early November 2004> and about 1250 in the S&P?) and 
  the third peak (January 2005 ?) will> be lower than the second. After 
  the third peak in January 2005 the> separating decline will carry to 
  1075 in the S&P and last 1-3 months> from the third peak. After the 
  1075 low we then will see a domed> house rally that carries the S&P 
  up to 1350 in the fall of 2005.>> The second resolution is 
  becoming more and more likely given the> degree of pessism I currently 
  think I see in public investment> perceptions. In this scenario, the 
  market rallies to 1350 in April-> June of 2005, then goes into a 6 
  month trading range (something like> March-September 2000) and then 
  begins a new bear market.>> In either scenario I expect the next 
  bear market to extend through> most of 2006 and carry the S&P from 
  about 1350 down into the 850-950> range.>> In my May 13 
  message I said that the bonds were about to begin a> rally from the 103 
  level in the futures that would last 4-8 weeks and> carry the market up 
  no more that 6 points. In the event we have seen> a rally that has 
  carried the market up nearly nine points over a 12> week 
  span.>> I now think that this bond rally is nearly over. I can 
  see the bonds> moving up a bit more into the 112-00 to 112-16 range(vs. 
  a high of> 111-26 yesterday) but first the market will probably drop to 
  109-08.> The 10 year notes reached the 113-10 level yesterday and have 
  the> potential to get to get up to 114-16. First they will probably 
  drop> to 111-16. The next big downleg will probably carry the bonds 
  down> into the 100-102 range and that may well be the bear market low 
  for> bonds.  The notes will drop to 104 but I think lower lows for 
  the> notes will evntually be seen as the yield curve continues to 
  flatten> substantially.>> I thought crude would top in 
  the $41-42 range in May but all we got> was a break to $35. I now think 
  that the bull market high will occur> in the $45-47 range and that the 
  next bear market will carry down to> $18.>> Carl> 
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