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size=2>Alex,
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Its 
good you posted this article that all the uninformed people use to back up their 
argument about the 'Plunge Protection Team'.  Not sure where the name came 
from, perhaps some journalist thought it up.  But anyway, if you read the 
article, it basically backs up everything I & Dan have said in prior emails. 
It provided absolutely no foundation for suggesting the Fed was out buying 
futures.  People who don't understand markets always look for someone to 
blame....when the markets crashes its those 'nasty' shorters....when the market 
bottoms in times like 1987 it must be inside money holding it up LOL.  Of 
course these people ignore the fact that every report into finding why the 
markets crash has anything to do with short sellers whatsoever. They love to 
live with their 'conspiracy' theories.  The world is full of these sad 
people.  Their lack of understanding takes us back to the dark ages when 
religion was invented to control the masses.  Its incredible effectiveness 
in this day and age tells you how ignorant and uninformed people still 
are!!  The conspiracy people will ignore the obvious facts and choose to 
look for the 'sinister' plot behind closed doors.....they are never able to 
accept the obvious and rational explanation.  Rose coloured glasses to the 
extreme. It doesn't mean the world is a perfect place of course.  
There are people out their trying to control and manipulate... in many 
cases they get away with it, and in many cases they don't.  But sometimes 
people just get silly ideas and take it way too far..
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  <FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Alex Bell 
  [mailto:alex_bell@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2003 8:40 
  PMTo: IraSubject: Re[2]: [RT] Re: Fed supporting 
  marketThere  was  an  article  
  in  Washington  Post 1997 on this matter. 
  Seeattached.Wednesday, November 19, 2003, 10:04:55 AM, you 
  wrote:I> What do you think they did with the unlimited credit when 
  they were bankrupt?  They went out and bought futures and stock to 
  support the market and increase the value of their portfolios. 
  I>   ----- Original Message ----- I>   From: 
  Dan Goncharoff I>   To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  I>   Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:43 
  AMI>   Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Fed supporting 
  marketI>   Why is the Fed providing liquidity at a 
  time of high risk, when free markets may otherwise no longer function properly 
  in the short term, be worse than a branch of the government making anI> 
  active decision to buy futures. Providing liquidity allows the market to 
  function; buying futures favors one side of the market over the other. In my 
  view, buying futures is as bad as sellingI> futures -- it means the 
  government is taking sides.I>   Ensuring the proper 
  functioning of the market is one of the stated functions of the financial 
  markets is one of the purposes of the Fed.I>   
  RegardsI>   DanGI>   Ira 
  wrote:I>     I thought that it was aimed at 
  government intervention in the markets.  It may not be the same as buying 
  futures, it is worse.  I>       
  ----- Original Message ----- I>       
  From: Dan Goncharoff I>       To: 
  realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I>       
  Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:18 
  AMI>       Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Fed 
  supporting marketI>       
  Providing liquidity to the markets is not the same as buying futures, which is 
  the charge leveled in the original 
  message.I>       
  RegardsI>       
  DanGI>       Ira 
  wrote:I>         The fact 
  is it did happen in 1987.  The fed told the banks to give unlimited 
  credit. I>           
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  I>           From: 
  Dan Goncharoff 
  I>           To: 
  realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  I>           Sent: 
  Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:21 
  AMI>           
  Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Fed supporting 
  marketI>           
  Have you ever seen it claimed in a respected source? If so, I would be 
  interested in the reference, because I have long sought such a mention in the 
  established press, without success.I> AFAIK, it is just foolish 
  gossip.I>           
  RegardsI>           
  DanGI>           
  BobsKC wrote:I> It is commonly accepted knowledge in the business 
  world and while I most I> certainly have not personally observed the 
  practice, I have no recall of I> the White House ever denying it, 
  either.  If the market tanks, so does I> Bush.  Do you not 
  believe that he has the means to prevent this?I> 
  BobI> At 02:57 PM 11/17/2003 -0800, you 
  wrote:I>   This is a strong statement, variations of which 
  I've heardI> many times with no factual support. Is there any support 
  here?I> regards,I> tbrI>   > the Fed 
  has shown in the past how it can hold upI> markets via futures 
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