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That is your opinion,
however I wasn't going for her personality. She has changed from when she
first came on the scene to now. Growth, maturity etc. Anyway, I do
believe people can change, it takes works, self awareness and determination but
it is doable. From your view (and you are entitled to it) a person has no
opportunity for self actualization, self awareness and to change whatever
negative or positive behavior. I think differently.
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Peace.
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To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:22
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Mentor: More Mental
Game Than Otherwise
Again that is Madonna was and is a user ... she is a person who
identifies what she believes her public wants and then she gives it to them in
large doses. She'll be whatever you want her to be as long as you pay
for it. In your case, you have to be you and actually, Madonna has to be
herself as well ... she just varies the facade. But back to you, you
can't be what you are not. You can't become who you are not. Not
unless such changes happen over long periods of time, naturally. You
have to take who you are and use that person's strengths and weaknesses to
become a successful trader. Just do what she does. Give em what
they want while continuing to be who you really are
...BobAt 08:15 PM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
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color=#808080>Bob, why would you say that? Anyone can change and
view things differently if they are willing to make the changes within
themselves. That is a part of our humanness. For example,
Madonna, she has changed a lot since she first came to fame. I only
use her because she lives in the spot light and you can see her growth from
her first interview/music to current day interviews/music. Part of
life is about experiences and how those experiences impact, subtle or
explosive.
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From: BobsKC
To: <A
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Mentor: More Mental Game Than Otherwise
BobOf course, we are all individuals so I can't speak for you but you
are looking to be trained/taught something that resides inside of
you. It is a product of your upbringing. Your values.
Your life's experiences. For someone else with different ideas
brought on by their own experiences would be most difficult to pass on to
you, with yours. Even the trading itself is, in part, a product of
your personality and what works for me, may well not work for you since
our personalities and life's experiences differ. Only you can add to
your emotional account since only you have the assets and baggage which
must be a part of any change in that area. In my opinion, you would
be wasting your time and money to attempt to bring in alien concepts to
your landscape. I do wish you well in your quest.
Bob
At 10:37 AM 12/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I really love all the feedback about getting/having a mentor.
But I should have been more specific from the outset:
I feel my challenges (and therefore my needs) are more
along the lines of my mental game. I have certain
"support and resistance" levels in my mental game that
hinder my growth as a trader.
I would like to find someone who is an expert at assisting
others in overcoming mental roadblocks and what I call
"psychological capital drainage" factors.
For me, I have found that on any given day, after early
morning self-analysis, there's a certain amount of
emotional capital that I have to work with.
I've found that the amount of emotional capital that I
have in my "mental account" at any given time is of more
importance than any amount of capital that's in my
trading account.
Bottom line is this: I have challenges with growing that
amount of emotional capital -- by growing through my
challenges (hopefully with the assistance of a "mental
mentor" if you will) I will be able to grow my financial
account as well.
Soooo.....
With all that in mind -- could someone recommend a
one-on-one counselor, coach, mentor, or otherwise who
you are confident can assist me in growing through
my challenges?
Thanks again to all who are so kind and generous with
their time to reply.
Warmly,
Brian Keith Voiles
At 10:31 PM 12/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:
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From: <A
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To: Norman Winski
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Seeking a Mentor to Take Me Higher
Norman,
Well said. I've always enjoyed reading your posts. The last time
we spoke via e-mail, you mentioned that trading with Astrology one has
to trade a particular market only if it happens to play the right tune
on that specific date. If it doesn't happen to play the right tune
when the date comes, then you stand aside. I realize it's not easy to
make money in the market, if it were then everyone would be doing it,
but how do you know a particular market has played the right tune
until it's already finished it's song?
NW: Mat, one doesn't have to hear the
entire song in order to "name that tune:" Most people can identify
Beethoven's Fifth Symphony after hearing the first four
notes. Same is true for the market.
If my analysis and forecast say to
expect A A B AA and the market plays BB B CC I know
my forecast is not in tune with the market. If the market shows signs
of matching what I expect, then there is a good chance my analysis is
in tune with the market and I should consider entering the
market.
Mat
P.S. I've always felt that if one could trade the markets
successfully for a living, then they wouldn't need to sell
books/systems/courses/indicators, etc...
NW: I say, why not do both? I trade
and I enjoy meeting and helping people. Each brings me
satisfaction that only doing one wouldn't do.
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DN,
Per your question below, trigger shyness can be fixed with
practice. First start with paper trading your system exactly to the
rules, assuming you have rules or a system. Hopefully, after seeing
your system successfully work on paper for at least six months, you
may decide you are ready to trade real money. Now trade the same
system using such a minimal amount of money that if all went wrong, it
wouldn't phase you. You should grade your performance as much by how
well you followed your rules as you judge the system. Making money on
a trade where you didn't follow the rules is a bad trade. Losing money
while following the rules is a good trade. If your system works and
you follow it, you will make money in the long run. If you had trouble
following your rules, you either need a different system or consider
changing to a non financial venture such as Parchesi where you won't h
Next patient! <G>
Regards,
Dr. Norm
Your Trading Doc
P.S. I sense with all the books and software you have, you may be
suffering from
analysis paralysis. The answer of course is to simplify!! Get a
simple system written
down on paper that you can follow like a robot. You should not be
making any decisions
during market hours. All strategies should be determined in
advance. Just follow what you
have laid out in advance just as you were a robot. No thinking
allowed.
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From: XINOS@xxxxxxx
To: nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Seeking a Mentor to Take Me Higher
Norm,
Great advice to Brian.
Can you recommend any books/gurus/courses on EOD trading in the
Stock Market?
I have accumulated about $5,000 worth of books and about $10,000
worth of software ((now u sing AIQ mostly) Advanced Get occasionally).
I'm a reluctant "trigger-puller." I've been a "student" for about
six years.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Dan Nicholas; San
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