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Re: [RT] Benchmarking Hard drive



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98 first edition was full of holes and bugs and crashes .. Win 98 2nd
edition was much, much better and was, at that time, their best OS to
date.  Then, they came out with Windows ME and it was a real piece
of sh*t and rivaled 98 1st edition with problems and failures. 
Finally, Win 2000 Pro provided us with the first really reliable Windows
OS and I now use it exclusively other than my Linux boxes.  (I have
no direct knowledge of XP but friends tell me 2000 Pro is still
superior).
Bob

At 02:02 PM 12/5/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Not
getting defensive....but my pc is 2-3 years old with a pentium 700 and
640 mbs ram. Just want to make sure its the pc. And I run win 98. Just
want to be sure thats the real issue first.
 
SMC
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ray Raffurty 
To:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Benchmarking Hard drive

I doughty he has a 1 Meg. card based on the age of his computer and the fact he has not upgraded anything else.
 
Actually, earlier I suggested he needs an entire new computer, but he has rejected that.  At more than 5 years old his Pentium-1, with a slow hard drive, dial-up internet and probably less than 1 Meg graphic card running Windows 95 is way outdated for what he wants to do.
 
He should update the hard drive, graphic card, mother board, CPU, memory, operating system, and internet connection.  Perhaps the case, fan, power supply, and modem (as a back-up) could be salvaged, but with excellent computers in the $400.00 range, why bother?
 
Good luck and good trading,
 
Ray Raffurty
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: tradewynne 
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Benchmarking Hard drive

--- In realtraders@x..., "Ray Raffurty" <r.raffurty@x...> wrote:
> I doughty your hard drive is at fault.  What is your graphic card?

I "doughty" it's your graphics card. I've run TS off 2MB cards. If 
your system is redrawing your WHOLE screen every tick you need to fix 
that first. This is a fixable and well known TS2K issue. I think DB 
at Dynastore posted a fix several years back.

Drawing a chart is actually NOT an intense graphics application
compared to video or gaming or whatever. Think about it: if you are 
re-drawing the latest bar a few times a second (and maybe your 
indicators if they are set to update every tick), how does that 
compare to an actual video? 

Anyway, I'm not saying it's fer sure the HD, but fer sure your HD is 
slow and you are accessing it every "tick" using your virtual memeory.

BTW, did you Benchmark your "write speed?" As lots of new data comes 
in, like on the open, TS "writes" it to your HD. If your HD gets 
behind the delay will snowball and get worse over time. If your 
entire system is using virtual memory (your's is), that'll add to the 
problem. The read speed would apply to opening up new charts.

I'm no computer expert :-), but I've been my own TS trouble shooter 
for 12 years. I can tell you your HD, and the condition of the files 
on it, can and do effect TS performance.

FWIW, if you only have one HD in your machine you should get a second 
one anyway and use your old one as a backup....

BW

>Is it built into the mother board?  That is far more likely to be 
the problem.  Intense graphic applications, like redrawing a screen 
every tic, require a state of the art graphic card.  Graphic chip 
sets built into the mother board are cheep and suck processing 
power.  Likewise an underpowered graphic card will do the same.
> 
> No offence, but if you valued your time at $30.00 you have spent 
enough time trying to fix this computer to afford a major upgrade.  
The road to success in trading is littered with people who tried to 
get by on the cheap, cheep (or old) computer + cheep internet 
connection = disaster.  Frankly if you cannot afford to upgrade your 
equipment and service, you can not afford to trade.  I and most 
people here have learned this, sometimes the hard way.  Trading is a 
business, if you don't have enough capital for decent equipment, you 
don't have enough capital to properly fund a trading account to 
withstand the inevitable draw downs.  Please do yourself a favor:  
Prepare a business plan, including funds for equipment, services, 
office and living expenses, etc. before you begin trading.  Take the 
time to set your self up as a business and you will reduce the risk 
of failure.
> 
> Good luck and good trading,
> 
> Ray Raffurty
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Sean Cassidy 
>   To: realtraders@xxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:16 PM
>   Subject: [RT] Benchmarking Hard drive
> 
> 
>   Sorry to take so much time with this.....but hopefully its 
helping some others as well. I benchmarked my hard drive with that 
program and took several readings. Most were between 4300 and 5200 
kbps when the defaults were used. I cant find any info about whether 
or not this is good. I have a 3 year old, 9.5 gb hard drive with 
about 4 gbs left. Is this as expected?
> 
>   SMC
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: tradewynne 
>     To: realtraders@xxxx 
>     Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:07 AM
>     Subject: Re: [RT] Offtopic Still slow data
> 
> 
>     --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Sean Cassidy" <scassidy@xxxx> wrote:
>     > If I ran TS with no indicators etc......I wouldnt need it. At 
this 
>     point, my PC seems fine, was just hoping someone could tell me 
if my 
>     limited bandwith could cause my data to slow during the day. It 
ran 
>     fine until 930 this morning, then immediately clogged up after 
the 
>     open. 
> 
>     Then it doesn't sound "fine" to me. Do you have win2k+ 
installed on a 
>     clean fast HD? Have you cleaned your registry? Freebie 
RegCleaner
>     (works fine, but use with care, backup your registry):
> 
>     http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/regcleaner.shtml
> 
>     You said the same indicator works fine on your 
friend's 'puter....
>     maybe your computer isn't "fine."
> 
> 
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/realtraders/message/19918
> 
>     > Ok i think I found the problem.....I only have 14% of 
resources 
>     free, so how do I fix?
> 
>     "Make sure you aren't starting programs you don't need and then 
>     reboot.
> 
>     or
> 
>     Clean install of Win2K.
> 
>     How about your HD? Is it old, slow, and/or full? A freebie 
called 
>     MPower can benchmark your HD. A slow or corrupted HD will cause 
your 
>     data to back up when your 'puter tries to write it to the HD.
> 
>     FWIW, I have an old AMD 900, 400 symbols/ 30 charts+, QCharts, 
>     Dynastore, TS4, and NO delay.
> 
>     BW"
> 
> 
> 
>     I just bought some great software that really helps with 
>     trends....but i cant use in intraday.
>     > 
>     > SMC
>     >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>     >   From: Ernie Bonugli 
>     >   To: Sean Cassidy 
>     >   Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:51 AM
>     >   Subject: Re: [RT] Offtopic Still slow data
>     > 
>     > 
>     >   Sean,
>     > 
>     >   I have not been keeping up with this thread, but, if you are
>     >   using tradestation, have you tried running TS with only one
>     >   simple workspace that has a  single chart and no indicators?
>     >   It could be that you have overwhelmed TS.
>     > 
>     > 
>     >   Regards,
>     >   Ernie
>     >   ebonugli@xxxx
>     > 
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