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<DIV><FONT size=2>This responce would be nearly exactly what I would expect from
a vendor. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>First, my original post may have been cynical, but it was
not personal nor attacking. Mr. Gilmore makes three personal attacks
and a threat. I know that would stand up to a double blind test. "I
don't think this will cure cancer." "Oh yes it will. You must be a
rank amatuer loser. I'll make a bumbling mess of you!!"
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I have still yet to see any real data to argue in favor of
these methods. Again, some may be out there and may be valid. I am
not slandering those who use the methods, merely questioning there
usefulness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Bumblingly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>sb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sophie</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:13
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] GANN/GILMORE {01}</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>hello every body</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Bryce ask me to put this for him, i have been in his list
for 3 months now, and he is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the only one trader that i know that write book and realy
trade, and he is telling his trade in his site for Free, i dont know any one
else who do that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>he is a brilliant teacher, and a brilliant trader, as i have
folow his trade FREE for the last 3 months</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>sophie</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are a lot of egos to deal with in this
business, unfortunately guys like SB never have made it or are rank
amateurs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Most of the people I have trained that are
successful are either working as technical analysts or as private traders. Of
the ones that do trade funds and are successful they rarely admit where they
got their increased knowledge of Gann or Elliott timing. Like every facet of
leveraged trading we would have a fall out rate of 75% who just can't put the
information to practical use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't let it bother me, if they want to take me
on head to head I can reduce them to a "bumbling mess".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway as far as books and software sales go I
have always had an agent handling that side of my business activity and I do
enjoy the money it brings in, the agents couldn't sell it if it was not worth
the price.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And I am prepared to place real time information
of trades I am taking - see how many of your real traders will do that. Guys
like Dennis who trade turtles systems take huge drawdowns to make the money
they do, most of the time they are using other peoples money and take up front
fees from the trading capital to make their living. Lots of people come and go
into their funds and in general many get burnt even though the funds can
produce audited results that look good on the face of it. I know cause I have
seen it over the years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So tell this guy SB to have a real good look at
the business and find out how long he has been in it. My opinion is, he is a
loser and just needs to try and surround himself with other losers, that's
what brokers usually do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Bryce</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bryce Gilmore & Associates <bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Tr: GANN/GILMORE {03}
> Sophie,
>
> Send this,
> I didn't say they were bad people, and I know quite a few, I just said
they
> "don't take prisoners", if you go over well with them they will be nice
> enough, if you are a dickhead they will treat you like one. In fact I had
> dinner in Vegas just recently with one of the nicest bond traders you
could
> meet. He is a regular guy and typical Chicago he is a 1000 lot trader. I
> would love to see anyone here on the internet trade 1000 lots from off the
> floor and keep their cool!
> Bryce.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bryce <bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 1:14 AM
> Subject: Tr: [RT] Re: Tr: GANN/GILMORE {03}
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Brown <markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 3:33 PM
> > Subject: [RT] Re: Tr: GANN/GILMORE {03}
> >
> >
> > > Hello Sophie,
> > >
> > >
> > > >> Sophie,
> > > >> Reply to Gwenn.
> > > >>
> > > >> Gwenn I did not start out as a loser, I have been a winner from day
> > one,
> > > >> that is the point. if you think I am a bastard just go into the
pits
> at
> > > S> the CBOT and find out how many pleasantries you get from the guys
> > > S> who work there.
> > >
> > > Actually some of the FINEST people who I have met in my lifetime have
> > > been at the CBOT. I have had a local who I know, casually introduce me
> > > around to other locals and they are nice guys eager to help you and
> > > answer questions with honest brutality! They hide nothing tell you
> > > EXACTLY the way it is in this game. Now that may not be what you want
> > > to hear but I appreciate them as fellow traders just as others this
> > > list do I also appreciate.
> > >
> > > I would recommend that anyone who has is capable, spend at week or two
> > > or longer in Chicago meeting people in this fascinating industry. The
> > > contacts I have personally made have been invaluable to me and my
> > > whole outlook of the business as a whole has changed for the better.
> > >
> > > Why? Because I thoroughly understand their jobs and thinking.
> > >
> > > >> Bryce.
> > > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Mark Brown mailto:markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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