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Re: Opinions on system results if so inclined - TIA



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I would re run it with commissions and slippage in it.  The profit
factor seems very high.  Just a quick look so I didn't really get into
it enough to really form an opinion that is helpful.  I lose interest
when I see no commissions and slippage and really high profit factor
combined with high success ratio.  Return seems low if I was looking
at the right number of about 9%.  Did you use a real high capital
figure?

Jimmy

Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 5:27:15 PM, you wrote:

DD> SPY - 100 shares per trade
DD> also ran on e-mini with similar results

>>TradeStation Performance Summary - 07/01/1998-09/22/2004
>>
>>	                All Trades	Long Trades Short Trades
>>Total Net Profit	$9,458.00 	$4,895.00 	$4,563.00
>>Gross Profit	$11,591.00 $6,170.00 $5,421.00
>>Gross Loss	($2,133.00) ($1,275.00) ($858.00)
>>Profit Factor	5.43	4.84	6.32
>>
>>Open Position P/L	$0.00 	$0.00 	$0.00
>>
>>Select Total Net Profit$6,676.00 $3,277.00 	$3,399.00
>>Select Gross Profit	$8,809.00 	$4,552.00 	$4,257.00
>>Select Gross Loss	($2,133.00)($1,275.00)($858.00)
>>Select Profit Factor	4.13	                  4.96
>>
>>Adjusted Total Net Profit$7,740.01 $3,654.95 $3,368.44
>>Adjusted Gross Profit	$10,362.36 $5,314.37 $4,529.79
>>Adjusted Gross Loss	($2,622.34) ($1,659.43) ($1,161.35)
>>Adjusted Profit Factor                  3.2	  3.9
>>
>>Total Number of Trades 108	63	45
>>Percent Profitable	82.41%	82.54%	82.22%
>>Winning Trades	89	52	37
>>Losing Trades	19	11	8
>>Even Trades	0	0	0
>>
>>Avg. Trade Net Profit	$87.57 	$77.70 	$101.40
>>Avg. Winning Trade	$130.24 	$118.65 	$146.51
>>Avg. Losing Trade	($112.26)	($115.91)	($107.25)
>>Ratio Avg. Winning:Avg. Losing	1.16	1.02	1.37
>>Largest Winning Trade	$1,164.00 	$913.00 	$1,164.00
>>Largest Losing Trade	($319.00)	($319.00)	($311.00)
>>Largest Winner as % of Gross Profit	10.04%	14.80%	21.47%
>>Largest Loser as % of Gross Loss	14.96%	25.02%	36.25%
>>
>>Net Profit as % of Largest Loss		1534.48%	1467.20%
>>Select Net Profit as % of Largest Loss	2092.79%	1027.27%	1092.93%
>>Adjusted Net Profit as % of Largest Loss	2426.34%	1145.75%	1083.10%
>>
>>Max. Consecutive Winning Trades25	19	24
>>Max. Consecutive Losing Trades	2	1	2
>>Avg. Bars in Total Trades	33.11	33.76	32.2
>>Avg. Bars in Winning Trades	34.11	34.79	33.16
>>Avg. Bars in Losing Trades	28.42	28.91	27.75
>>Avg. Bars in Even Trades	0	0	0
>>
>>Max. Shares/Contracts Held	100	100	100
>>Account Size Required	$323.00 	$319.00 	$323.00
>>Total Slippage	$0.00 	$0.00 	$0.00
>>Total Commission	$0.00 	$0.00 	$0.00
>>
>>Return on Initial Capital	9.46%
>>Annual Rate of Return	1.46%
>>Buy & Hold Return	-9.19%
>>Return on Account	2928.17%
>>Avg. Monthly Return	$129.28
>>Std. Deviation of Monthly Return	$227.36
>>
>>Return Retracement Ratio	0.25
>>RINA Index	331.68
>>Sharpe Ratio	-0.07
>>K-Ratio	n/a
>>
>>Trading Period	6 Yrs, 2 Mths, 1 Dy, 4 Hrs, 15 Mins
>>Percent of Time in the Market	15.57%
>>Time in the Market	11 Mths, 16 Dys
>>Longest Flat Period	85 Dys, 1 Hr, 30 Mins
>>
>>Max. Equity Run-up	$10,235.00
>>Date of Max. Equity Run-up	7/22/2004 9:00
>>Max. Equity Run-up as % of Initial Capital	10.24%
>>
>>Max. Drawdown (Intra-day Peak to Valley)
>>Value	($1,188.00)	($1,069.00)	($1,188.00)
>>Date	10/26/2001 11:30
>>as % of Initial Capital	1.19%	1.19%	1.07%
>>Net Profit as % of Drawdown	796.13%	457.90%	384.09%
>>Select Net Profit as % of Drawdown	561.95%	306.55%	286.11%
>>Adjusted Net Profit as % of Drawdown	651.52%	341.90%
>>
>>Max. Drawdown (Trade Close to Trade Close)
>>Value	($323.00)	($319.00)	($323.00)
>>Date	2/11/2003 11:00
>>as % of Initial Capital	0.32%	0.32%	0.32%
>>Net Profit as % of Drawdown	2928.17%	1534.48%	1412.69%
>>Select Net Profit as % of Drawdown	2066.87%	1027.27%	1052.32%
>>Adjusted Net Profit as % of Drawdown	2396.29%	1145.75%	1042.86%
>>
>>Max. Trade Drawdown	($885.00)	($885.00)	($399.00)
>>
>>
>>
>>All Trades
>>
>>Total Net Profit	$9,458.00 	   Profit Factor	5.43
>>Gross Profit	$11,591.00 	   Gross Loss	($2,133.00)
>>
>>Open Position Profit/Loss	$0.00
>>
>>Select Total Net Profit	$6,676.00 	   Select Profit Factor	4.13
>>Select Gross Profit	$8,809.00 	   Select Gross Loss	($2,133.00)
>>
>>Adjusted Total Net Profit	$7,740.01 	   Adjusted Profit Factor
>>Adjusted Gross Profit	$10,362.36 	   Adjusted Gross Loss	($2,622.34)
>>
>>Total Number of Trades	108	   Percent Profitable	82.41%
>>Winning Trades	89	   Losing Trades	19
>>Even Trades	0
>>
>>Avg. Trade Net Profit	$87.57 	   Ratio Avg. Win:Avg. Loss	1.16
>>Avg. Winning Trade	$130.24 	   Avg. Losing Trade	($112.26)
>>Largest Winning Trade	$1,164.00 	   Largest Losing Trade	($319.00)
>>Largest Winner as % of Gross Profit	10.04%	   Largest Loser as % of Gross
>>Loss	14.96%
>>
>>Net Profit as % of Largest Loss
>>Slct. Net Profit as % of Largest Loss	2092.79%	   Adj. Net Profit as % of
>>Largest Loss	2426.34%
>>
>>Max. Consecutive Winning Trades	25	   Max. Consecutive Losing Trades	2
>>Avg. Bars in Winning Trades	34.11	   Avg. Bars in Losing Trades	28.42
>>Avg. Bars in Total Trades	33.11
>>
>>Max. Shares/Contracts Held	100	   Account Size Required	$323.00
>>Total Commission	$0.00 	   Total Slippage	$0.00
>>
>>Return on Initial Capital	9.46%	   Annual Rate of Return	1.46%
>>Buy and Hold Return	-9.19%	   Return on Account	2928.17%
>>Avg. Monthly Return	$129.28 	   Std. Deviation of Monthly Return	$227.36
>>
>>Return Retracement Ratio	0.25	   RINA Index	331.68
>>Sharpe Ratio	-0.07	   K-Ratio	n/a
>>
>>Trading Period	6 Yrs, 2 Mths, 1 Dy, 4 Hrs, 15 Mins	   Percent of Time in
>>the Market	15.57%
>>Time in the Market	11 Mths, 16 Dys	   Longest Flat Period	85 Dys, 1 Hr, 30
>>Mins
>>
>>Max. Equity Run-up	$10,235.00
>>Date of Max. E. Run-up	7/22/2004 9:00	   Max. E. Run-up as % of Initial
>>Capital	10.24%
>>
>>Max. Drawdown (Intra-day Peak to Valley)	   Max. Drawdown (Trade Close to
>>Trade Close)
>>Value	($1,188.00)	   Value	($323.00)
>>Date	10/26/2001 11:30	   Date	2/11/2003 11:00
>>as % of Initial Capital	1.19%	   as % of Initial Capital	0.32%
>>Net Profit as % of Drawdown	796.13%	   Net Profit as % of Drawdown	2928.17%
>>Slct. Net Profit as % of Drawdown	561.95%	   Slct. Net Profit as % of
>>Drawdown	2066.87%
>>Adj. Net Prof as % of Drawdown	651.52%	   Adj. Net Profit as % of 
>>Drawdown	2396.29%
>>
>>Max. Trade Drawdown	($885.00)
>>
>>Long Trades
>>
>>Total Net Profit	$4,895.00 	   Profit Factor	4.84
>>Gross Profit	$6,170.00 	   Gross Loss	($1,275.00)
>>
>>Open Position Profit/Loss	$0.00
>>
>>Select Total Net Profit	$3,277.00 	   Select Profit Factor
>>Select Gross Profit	$4,552.00 	   Select Gross Loss	($1,275.00)
>>
>>Adjusted Total Net Profit	$3,654.95 	   Adjusted Profit Factor	3.2
>>Adjusted Gross Profit	$5,314.37 	   Adjusted Gross Loss	($1,659.43)
>>
>>Total Number of Trades	63	   Percent Profitable	82.54%
>>Winning Trades	52	   Losing Trades	11
>>Even Trades	0
>>
>>Avg. Trade Net Profit	$77.70 	   Ratio Avg. Win:Avg. Loss	1.02
>>Avg. Winning Trade	$118.65 	   Avg. Losing Trade	($115.91)
>>Largest Winning Trade	$913.00 	   Largest Losing Trade	($319.00)
>>Largest Winner as % of Gross Profit	14.80%	   Largest Loser as % of Gross
>>Loss	25.02%
>>
>>Max. Consecutive Winning Trades	19	   Max. Consecutive Losing Trades	1
>>Avg. Bars in Winning Trades	34.79	   Avg. Bars in Losing Trades	28.91
>>Avg. Bars in Total Trades	33.76
>>
>>Max. Shares/Contracts Held	100	   Account Size Required	$319.00
>>Total Commission	$0.00 	   Total Slippage	$0.00
>>
>>Net Profit as % of Largest Loss	1534.48%
>>Slct. Net Profit as % of Largest Loss	1027.27%	   Adj. Net Profit as % of
>>Largest Loss	1145.75%
>>
>>Max. Drawdown (Intra-day Peak to Valley)	   Max. Drawdown (Trade Close to
>>Trade Close)
>>Value	($1,069.00)	   Value	($319.00)
>>as % of Initial Capital	1.19%	   as % of Initial Capital	0.32%
>>Net Profit as % of Drawdown	457.90%	   Net Profit as % of Drawdown	1534.48%
>>Slct. Net Profit as % of Drawdown	306.55%	   Slct. Net Profit as % of
>>Drawdown	1027.27%
>>Adj. Net Prof as % of Drawdown	341.90%	   Adj. Net Profit as % of 
>>Drawdown	1027.27%
>>
>>Max. Trade Drawdown	($885.00)
>>
>>Short Trades
>>
>>Total Net Profit	$4,563.00 	   Profit Factor	6.32
>>Gross Profit	$5,421.00 	   Gross Loss	($858.00)
>>
>>Open Position Profit/Loss	$0.00
>>
>>Select Total Net Profit	$3,399.00 	   Select Profit Factor	4.96
>>Select Gross Profit	$4,257.00 	   Select Gross Loss	($858.00)
>>
>>Adjusted Total Net Profit	$3,368.44 	   Adjusted Profit Factor	3.9
>>Adjusted Gross Profit	$4,529.79 	   Adjusted Gross Loss	($1,161.35)
>>
>>Total Number of Trades	45	   Percent Profitable	82.22%
>>Winning Trades	37	   Losing Trades	8
>>Even Trades	0
>>
>>Avg. Trade Net Proft	$101.40 	   Ratio Avg. Win:Avg. Loss	1.37
>>Avg. Winning Trade	$146.51 	   Avg. Losing Trade	($107.25)
>>Largest Winning Trade	$1,164.00 	   Largest Losing Trade	($311.00)
>>Largest Winner as % of Gross Profit	21.47%	   Largest Loser as % of Gross
>>Loss	25.02%
>>
>>Max. Consecutive Winning Trades	24	   Max. Consecutive Losing Trades	2
>>Avg. Bars in Winning Trades	33.16	   Avg. Bars in Losing Trades	27.75
>>Avg. Bars in Total Trades	32.2
>>
>>Max. Shares/Contracts Held	100	   Account Size Required	$323.00
>>Total Slippage	$0.00 	   Total Commission	$0.00
>>
>>Net Profit as % of Largest Loss	1467.20%
>>Slct. Net Profit as % of Largest Loss	1092.93%	   Adj. Net Profit as % of
>>Largest Loss	1083.10%
>>
>>Max. Drawdown (Intra-day Peak to Valley)	   Max. Drawdown (Trade Close to
>>Trade Close)
>>Value	($1,188.00)	   Value	($323.00)
>>as % of Initial Capital	1.07%	   as % of Initial Capital	0.32%
>>Net Profit as % of Drawdown	384.09%	   Net Profit as % of Drawdown	1412.69%
>>Slct. Net Profit as % of Drawdown	286.11%	   Slct. Net Profit as % of
>>Drawdown	1052.32%
>>Adj. Net Prof as % of Drawdown		   Adj. Net Prof as % of Drawdown	1042.86%
>>
>>Max. Trade Drawdown	($399.00)
>>




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 Jimmy                            mailto:jhsnowden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx