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Re: I dont't believe it.....OK here it is in text.



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Dunno why the gif didn't go through...

>Here is a S&P system with a $1 stop (effectively $25, one tick) :)

SP U0-Daily   07/06/1999 - 07/27/2000

	Performance Summary:  All Trades

Total net profit	$ 150400.00	Open position P/L	$      0.00
Gross profit    	$ 150400.00	Gross loss      	$      0.00

Total # of trades	      53	Percent profitable	     100%
Number winning trades	      53	Number losing trades	       0

Largest winning trade	$  18650.00	Largest losing trade	$      0.00
Average winning trade	$   2837.74	Average losing trade	$      0.00
Ratio avg win/avg loss	     100.00	Avg trade(win & loss)	$   2837.74

Max consec. winners	      53	Max consec. losers	       0
Avg # bars in winners	       0	Avg # bars in losers	       0

Max intraday drawdown	$      0.00
Profit factor   	     100.00	Max # contracts held	       1
Account size required	$      0.00	Return on account	       0%

>Obviously, you would lose nearly every trade in the S&P with a 1 tick stop,
>but given the nature of bar charts (OHLC is the ONLY data TS4 sees in a
>given bar), TS will let you "win" every trade with a trailing stop if the
>floor (or profit target) is tight enough to capture the range beyond your
>entry. Meanwhile, in real life, intrabar movement would have stopped you
>out.
>
>Bouncing ticks tries to remedy the situation, but IMHO only confuses the
>issue. TS help and the manual cover this in detail.
>
>Try your system with no stops, and see if it is the "system" or the stops
>that are making money.
>
>Bill Wynne
>TradeWynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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>>From: "Jerry & Cora" <jerryandcora@xxxxxxxx>
>>To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "L_Omega" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: I dont't believe it, But this is what trade station is giving me.
>>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:36:20 -0700
>>
>>Seems to good to be true.  I am tying to write a simple system in trade
>>station.  It is giving very good results with this one being one of the
>>better. Since joining this group I dont trust trade station but wonder if 
>>I
>>could have inadvertently set it up to give unreliable but encouraging
>>results.  I have been tweaking and optimizing the system and get good
>>results,  This report is on data not optimized except on other data.
>>
>>
>>
>>  TradeStation System Report - bigfoot1 F-Daily (12/05/1997-11/05/1999)
>>
>>  Performance Summary:  All Trades
>>
>>  Total Net Profit  $177,310.00  Open position P/L  $0.00
>>  Gross Profit  $182,460.00  Gross Loss  ($5,150.00)
>>
>>  Total # of trades  195  Percent profitable  53.00%
>>  Number winning trades  103  Number losing trades  92
>>
>>  Largest winning trade  $1,910.00  Largest losing trade  ($120.00)
>>  Average winning trade  $1,771.46  Average losing trade  ($55.98)
>>  Ratio avg win/avg loss  31.65  Avg trade (win & loss)  $909.28
>>
>>  Max consec. Winners  7  Max consec. losers  5
>>  Avg # bars in winners  0  Avg # bars in losers  0
>>
>>  Max intraday drawdown  ($460.00)
>>  Profit Factor  35.43  Max # contracts held  1,300
>>  Account size required  $460.00  Return on account  38545.65%
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