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No chance in hell... it was GTC all the way.

- Hacker


On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Robert W Cummings wrote:

> 
> I certainly agree the broker should have told him that. I'm not familiar
> with Datek but if he entered the the order electronically was it possible
> the order was accepted as a GTC, but in reality was just a day limit order?
> 
> Robert
> 
> hansi_klein@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >In that case his broker - DATEK should
> >have told him that no GTC orders are
> >accepted.
> >
> >
> > ---- On Dec  1 Robert W Cummings <rwc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> >> Its my understanding only stop orders are accepted for overnight in Nasdaq
> >> traded stocks that will except them. Eggs does but any limit order has to
> >> be place daily so from what your saying you had no order in there to be
> >> filled. You placed it Friday but didn't replace it  again Monday so no
> >> order was there to be seen by the Eggs MM's. This is not a Datek rule but a
> >> Nasdaq one.
> >> 
> >> Robert
> >> 
> >> Dark Hacker wrote:
> >> 
> >> >My order was GTC with a limit to sell at 31 1/2.  The price had risen to
> >> >around $40 / share with no execution.  I find it hard to believe that the
> >> >order book was so large or that there were so few buyers that this trade
> >> >could not be executed for 20 minutes above my limit price.
> >> >
> >> >Unless anyone can find a flaw in this reasoning, the SEC is gonna hear
> >> >about this.
> >> >
> >> >- Hacker
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, 1 Dec 1998 hansi_klein@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 
> >> >> good till cancel otherwise all your orders
> >> >> get deleted after the last minute of trading
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>  ---- On Nov 30 Sigstroker@xxxxxxx wrote: 
> >> >> > Did you re-enter your limit order today? If I remember, all limit
> >> orders at
> >> >> > Datek are for the day only.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > In a message dated 11/30/98 9:33:11 PM, hacker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > > Speaking of fills, it lloks like Datek screwed me today by
> holding my
> >> >> > >  order when they should have executed it.  I entered a limit order
> >> Friday 
> >> >> > >  to sell shares of Egghead Software at $31 1/2 / share.  Egghead
> >> closed at
> >> >> > >  a hair under that price and I was anticipating a spike up in the
> >> morning.
> >> >> > >  
> >> >> > >  Well come Monday I got my spike upwards as Egghead soared to $40 /
> >> share,
> >> >> > >  however my limit order never executed even though my limit price
> >> had been
> >> >> > >  exceeded by 9 whole points!  Egghead traded around $38 / share for
> >> a full
> >> >> > >  half hour before plummeting to $25 / share and I never got my fill!
> >> >> > >  
> >> >> > >  Worse, a friend of mine who trades with E-Trade says he experienced
> >> the
> >> >> > >  same problem with Egghead in his account this morning.
> >> >> > >  
> >> >> > >  So are the brokerage firms holding our orders and not executing
> >> them as we
> >> >> > >  have directed?  Isn't this illegal?  Are there other
> explanations for
> >> >> > >  this?  If not, I'm going to directthe SEC to look into the matter.
> >> >> > >  
> >> >> > >  - Hacker
> >> >> > >  
> >> >> > 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >
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