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Perry:

Ok, I can understand that, if it's the case. Then I would ask Pierre [I am
assuming Pierre indeed does have a working Beta version of TS 5...I'm willing to
give him the benefit of the doubt about that] to delete the posts other people
make revealing what they think they have learned about the product and stop
littering the list with all these personal attacks on people that are actually
trying to share information with people that are interested. Pierre did not
attack the information that was posted here--And by the way, the information was
not posted by Earl originally, but by a different person that was seemed to be
quoting someone else--Pierre took the opportunity to again make more personal
attacks on someone. 

He could have either deleted the post and shook his head, or made an innocent
post stating that he could not reveal any information about the current Beta
version but in his experience, he does not agree with the information. But then,
Pierre is constantly telling us about the Beta version he has that does not have
all the features enabled. So he isn't doing a good job hiding behind a claim of
an agreement with Omega.

Folks were just passing out information. That doesn't call for personal attacks
from the mad frog physics tester or the etched-silicone featured man. If you
have something to add, add it. If you want to take a swipe at someone because
your bored, go do it elsewhere, please.

Best,

Tim Morge

Peter M. Perry wrote:
> 
> Tim et. al.,
> 
> I agree it would be nice to get input from TS 5.0 beta testers.  I am not such a
> tester. However, I did test another product some years ago.  In order to become a
> beta tester I had to agree (in writing) that I would not discuss any issues
> regarding the product until the product was released.  Perhaps TS 5.0 testers are
> under similar agreements.
> 
> Cheers,
> Peter Perry
> 
> Timothy Morge wrote:
> 
> > Omega Man:
> >
> > When the day comes that I am trading your personal capital, then you can tell me
> > what to do. This is a forum first and foremost about trading using Omega
> > products. Omega is threatening to actually release what they claim might be a
> > new product with significant improvements. We are finally getting glimpses of
> > this product from, apparently, a few beta users. And so far, we haven't heard
> > yet from a beta user that is refuting the fairly negative reviews.
> >
> > Again, I challenge you or anyone else out there. IF you have the new TS 5.0 and
> > you care to go on the record to give us your impression of the product and
> > refute the claims made about its performance, then please do so. Otherwise, this
> > is a forum that usually practices free speech. So if you don't like what's been
> > posted, hit the delete button...
> >
> > Or, even better...if you can't come up with a first hand review of the product,
> > take some time and write a useful post that shares some trading technique with
> > the other traders here. Otherwise, you are just wasting our bandwidth.
> >
> > Basically, you stand behind some fake name that you think is real cool and take
> > pot shots at other people. Again, add something interesting or go slink back to
> > the corner and hide with the rest of the crumbs.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Tim Morge
> >
> > The Omega Man (TM) wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, I never heard such a bunch of cry babies in my entire life.
> > >
> > > You don't think Omega produces good software or has good tech support?
> > > Fine.  Why don't you take over the controls?  Hey baby, they're yours any
> > > time you want 'em.....  Any takers...?  I didn't think so.
> > >
> > > You think that Omega's new software uses too much of your CPU power?  Fine.
> > > Don't use it.....  But damn, quit the bitching.
> > >
> > > Bottom line:  Put up or shut up.  If you don't like the way Omega writes
> > > their code or provides tech support then you do it better.  Otherwise, shut
> > > up.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > The Omega Man (TM)
> > >
> > > I swear - by my life and my love of it - that I will never live for the sake
> > > of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Earl Adamy <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: List-omega <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 12:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: DTN and Tradestation
> > >
> > > Gee, TS5 sounds like a truly efficient real-time program!! I run DTN
> > > Real-time
> > > and 16bit version of Ensign on a 128mb P133 collecting everything
> > > (futures/stocks/indexes/etc) except options and NASDAQ and running a number
> > > of
> > > custom scripts in addition to standard tools. NT Task manager shows it uses
> > > 15-20% of CPU and under 15meg of memory _including_ the NTVDM 16bit virtual
> > > machine. I have the new 32 bit version (beta) here - haven't loaded it but
> > > I'm
> > > told it consumes considerably fewer resources.
> > >
> > > Earl
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ZooKeeper <rsos@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 9:35 AM
> > > Subject: Fw: DTN and Tradestation
> > >
> > > >>You will have to get version 5 (called Pro Suite) of Omega TS for use
> > > >>with a DTN system.  It is still in beta testing, with a few things yet
> > > >>to be resolved, but they are hoping to have a release sometime in Sept.
> > > >>
> > > >>One important thing to note about the marriage of the two products is
> > > >>that it will definitely need a powerful pc to run.  The features of TS
> > > >>and DTN will require AT LEAST 128 RAM and 300+ mhz processor (in some
> > > >>beta tests, it pushes a Pentium II 300 mhz system to the max and has
> > > >>shut down a P200 in some cases).  This of course depends on the number
> > > >>of markets you wish to access.
> > > >>
> > > >>For example, if you only need stock quotes passing thru to TS, then the
> > > >>requirements are not nearly as demanding (P166 may suffice) as opposed
> > > >>to all stock, futures, and options markets.
> > > >>
> > > >>Happy trading!
> > > >>
> > > >>Jeff
> > > >>
> > > >