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Steve's contributions to the old metastock.com list were great. I've
seen his work pop up in a lot of places, and I wouldn't be surprised
if many of the systems in your own collections have elements of his
ideas.
My only beef with Steve's work is that he doesn't (at least he didn't
in the old days) like money management stops. But that's a debate for
another day.
If you kids can quit squabbling, you'll see Steve's pretty generous
with his ideas. You just have to get past his caustic sense of humor.
Now, can't we all just get along?
From: CedarCreekTrading <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, December 3, 2004, 11:48:16 AM
Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Xmas is here early
Tom,
You'd be surprised....I've had folks fly from San Francisco and drive from St. Paul....all end up members. I haven't been to the DTG site for a long time and I forgot that it's password protected. I would encourage people to start a ski week or weekend a day early and catch a DTG meeting some Thursday night.
In lieu of coming to Denver, I'm attaching the October's ppt from the DTG. I can't turn down a polite request...and, you have shared information and helped a lot of folks. I do hesitate to just toss this out. Two months from now, someone will be selling the "six pack" as a 3K trading system (totally black-boxed).
Do you know why most financial software hucksters black box a system? Not because the big boyz will steal it, overtrade it and therefore, ruin it for everyone...no, because they have swiped other people's stuff and open-code would reveal the source. So, I encourage people to steal my stuff and improve it. If you steal and MARKET it, you'll be hearing from me (or my cousin Guido).
"In the morning you go gunning for the man who stole your water"
Take care,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Sprunger
To:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: Xmas is here early
Steve, this is a catch 22.
One can not view the Denver Trading Group unless he is a member, and you can not become a member unless you attend a meeting. Kind of hard when you live hundreds or thousands of miles away.
Would be nice to see your stuff.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: CedarCreekTrading
To:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: Xmas is here early
Jose,
The difference is that all my work is given away for FREE. Check out the Denver Trading Group: http://www.denvertradinggroup.com/
the largest trading group in the world.
Every month, for the last three years, I am the moderator of the mechanical SIG group (100+, every fourth Thursday). Each and every month, there is a powerpoint presentation that is archived at the DTG site. Every month, I present a mechanical system that I trade "live" in real time. The Mirus E-Mini track record is just a small part of the overall trading program (but, it is a system with absolutely no custom indicators and of course, dozens of people have printed these trades in their accounts). Also, we advise institutions and brokerage houses around the globe. You ought to tune into the "live" twenty minute morning update.
All I'm saying is that nobody has to pay anything for indicators or trading systems. I give it all away ... for free. I know that pisses off charlatans and system hustlers...but so be it. I don't put you in that category Jose. But, before anyone buys anything, from anybody, they should investigate what is around .... for free.
BTW, check out all the promotional goodies that Equis sends out to their prospective clients (the video). Recognize any of the frontmen/women? Damn, one of those guys is sure good looking (and I ain't talking about Oliver or Bob).
Take care,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jose
To:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Xmas is here early
Steve,
"Since these unsolicited, solicitations keep showing up in my mailbox.
.."
You'd better direct my mail to your spam box, because I'm unlikely to
stop at this one. The trader's educational market is rife with scams,
and it is highly unusual to find genuinely useful material, free or
otherwise.
"First of all, I've been using MS since 1988 and have developed very
simple approaches to the market. NOT TOOLS, simple approaches based
on STANDARD pulldown indicators."
No tools. Good for you.
But perhaps you are in the wrong usergroup.
"Using the Chande Momentum Oscillator..."
This could be considered a trading tool, and so could MetaStock.
" http://www.thedailytrade.com/ "
"Daily Trade subscribers start each day with our Morning Market Update
and Morning Market Call - indispensable tools that help investors set
their daily, short, intermediate and long term market biases."
Oh, so you do use TOOLS... <:-I
" http://www.mirusfutures.com/cct_log.asp#041130 "
Looks like a tips sheet to me. I guess no trading tools needed here.
"Nobody is using MetaStock with the stealth precision that is
practiced by the group of traders we have gathered."
Pfff... :D
"If you want to experience a "out-of-body" trading experience....join
us in our hotcomm room: Teach Talk Trade."
Thanks, but I'd prefer to keep my feet firmly on the ground for now.
jose '-)
--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CedarCreekTrading" <kernish@xx
..> wrote:
> Jose,
>
> Since these unsolicited, solicitations keep showing up in my
> mailbox...I guess this forum is open to "suggestions" on how to
> spend your hard earned cash.
>
> First of all, I've been using MS since 1988 and have developed very
> simple approaches to the market. NOT TOOLS, simple approaches based
> on STANDARD pulldown indicators. Using the Chande Momentum
> Oscillator I have been trading for dozens of people and the ACTUAL
> track record is at:
>
> http://www.mirusfutures.com/cct_log.asp#041130
>
> If you seek a place where the majority of the people use and
> exchange information about MetaStock...I would check out:
>
> http://www.thedailytrade.com/
>
> If you want to experience a "out-of-body" trading experience....
> join us in our hotcomm room: Teach Talk Trade.
>
> Nobody is using MetaStock with the stealth precision that is
> practiced by the group of traders we have gathered.
>
> Take care,
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jose
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:38 AM
> Subject: [Metastockusers] Xmas is here early
>
> I've just had the privilege of previewing a pre-release version of
> the December issue of Roy's MetaStock Tips Tricks newsletter, and
> if you are a subscriber, you are in for a nice surprise.
>
> In my view, this is the best issue yet published, with articles on
> the System Tester, user-input Explorations, and more.
> A new set of articles on filtering relative strength explorations by
> a professional trader puts the icing on the cake.
>
> I better not say much more, except that I have no financial
> connection to Roy's newsletter. Apologies to Roy for "jumping the
> gun", but it's not often that I get excited by educational material
> (of the highest calibre in this case).
>
> If you haven't been here yet, now is your chance:
> http://www.metastocktips.co.nz/
>
>
> jose '-)
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