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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>For the benefit of WaveTrader users and
MetaStock users: Here are some of the conversations we have seen posted from
Equis about the Year 2000 question. While their marketing stance is to shut out
other data suppliers such as CSI from knowing their format and trying to force
everyone to use their own database, the reality is that this is really not a
threat to current users of non-Reuters data sources and users of older
software.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>As far as we can ascertain
the current Version 6.50 of MetaStock already is programmed for Year 2000
compliance. We ran a test with future data with a 1000101 format ie a 1
for the century much the same as CSI UA does, on MetaStock 6.50 and 6.51.
This worked fine the century change over was hunky dory. The reality is
that only the DownLoader needs to be updated so it can input the number 1 for
the century in front of the YYMMDD. The current DownLoader does not do
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>In reality no data format is all that safe from
reverse engineering. MetaStock format seemed to be a clone of its
competitor Computrac format when it came out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>No need for panic. It is only if MetaStock
comes out with an entirely new MetaStock program should there be an issue.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>David Hunt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.wavetrader.com";>http://www.wavetrader.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2><A
href="http://www.adest.com.au";>http://www.adest.com.au</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:34:27 -0500<BR>From: "Dan" <<A
href="mailto:w4tq@xxxxxxxxxx";>w4tq@xxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Subject: Re: MS
6.5 - Y2K ?<BR><BR>I was waiting for the new Metastock<BR>versions
to come out and for the data vendors to debug everything before I<BR>bought
Metastock Pro. However, if Equis is going to lock users into one<BR>data
provider, I wouln't consider purchasing any of thier products. They<BR>had
a good thing going when many of the other software companies used their<BR>data
as a standard. Most people want both a charting program as well as
one<BR>or more trading programs. If Equis takes a high handed attitude
with the<BR>"Metastock data format", that will be the end of
that..<BR>Dan<BR><BR>><BR>><BR>>>CSI is a direct competitor of
Reuters DataLink. The committee that<BR>>>decides who gets the write
version of MSFL (the MetaStock file library)<BR>>>determined that as a
direct competitor they were not going to give them<BR>>>the
library.<BR>>><BR>>>UnFair Advantage has never used the file library
materials, even when<BR>>>they were able to obtain it, choosing in the
past to write directly to<BR>>>MetaStock files and currently doing
so. In fact, they completely<BR>>>overwrite the entire data set each
day which can cause a great deal of<BR>>>fragmentation in the files which
eventually leads to problems.<BR>>><BR>>>Unfair Advantage currently
is able to create ASCII files which may be<BR>>>converted using The
DownLoader. This does not overwrite the entire data<BR>>>folder each
time which does not cause fragmentation of the files.
This<BR>>>method will be available in the future as
well.<BR>>><BR>>>You will still be able to obtain your data from
CSI. They will likely<BR>>>not be able to write directly to
MetaStock files much longer however.<BR>>><BR>>>Equis
Support<BR>>><A
href="http://www.equis.com/";>http://www.equis.com/</A><BR>>><A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>>Please
include previous email answers and questions in your
response.<BR>>><BR>>>Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock Professional
are registered trademarks<BR>>>of Equis International. Achelis
Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert<BR>>>Advisor, OptionScope,
Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are trademarks of<BR>>>Equis
International.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>>From: Essan Soobratty [<A
href="mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]<BR>>>Sent:
Monday, December 28, 1998 11:47 AM<BR>>>To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>; <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>>Subject: Re: MS
6.5 - Y2K ?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Thank you for clearing that
up! Now I get it.<BR>>><BR>>>Can you please comment on the
confusion (mostly my own...) re:CSI Unfair<BR>>>Advantage and their claim
that they are unable to guarantee that
their<BR>>>data<BR>>>generator program will be able to provide
compatible metastock data post<BR>>>1999 because, quote : "we have
been advised by equis that they will not<BR>>>disclose to CSI the [new]
metastock format details...". (see my earlier<BR>>>post
below).<BR>>><BR>>>Thanks again.<BR>>><BR>>>Essan
Soobratty<BR>>><BR>>>Equis Support
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> To clear up some
confusion.<BR>>>><BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows is the end of
day program.<BR>>>> MetaStock Professional is the real time program
that will also run in<BR>>>> end of day. These are DIFFERENT
programs.<BR>>>><BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows version 6.52 is
NOT yet released.<BR>>>> MetaStock Professional version 6.52 is
available.<BR>>>><BR>>>> MetaStock Professional is Y2K
complaint.<BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows version 6.51 is NOT certified
complaint.<BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows version 6.52 (not yet released)
will be<BR>>>certified<BR>>>> Y2K
complaint.<BR>>>><BR>>>> The DownLoader for Windows version
6.52 for Reuters DataLink is<BR>>>released<BR>>>> and is Y2K
compliant.<BR>>>> The DownLoader for Windows version 6.52 for all other
supported<BR>>>vendors<BR>>>> is Not yet
available.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Basically, when MetaStock for Windows
version 6.52 is released, any<BR>>>> MetaStock or The DownLoader
version 6.52(MetaStock for Windows and<BR>>>> MetaStock Professional)
will be Y2K compliant. Any version prior to<BR>>>> 6.52 will NOT
be certified Y2K compliant.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Equis
Support<BR>>>> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/";>http://www.equis.com/</A><BR>>>> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>>>
Please include previous email answers and questions in your
response.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock
Professional are registered<BR>>>trademarks<BR>>>> of Equis
International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert<BR>>>>
Advisor, OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are trademarks
of<BR>>>> Equis International.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>>>> From: Essan Soobratty [<A
href="mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]<BR>>>>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 9:10 AM<BR>>>> To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>; <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>>> Subject:
Re: MS 6.5 - Y2K ?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Hello equis
support.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Now I am confused. 20 minutes
before your email arrived I spoke with<BR>>>> John<BR>>>> (I
think he is in the sales dept) at equis. I asked the question
is<BR>>>> Metastock Pro y2k compliant and he said yes it
is.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Please confirm yes or
no?<BR>>>><BR>>>> What is also causing some frustration is the
confusion over whether<BR>>>CSI<BR>>>> Unfair Advantage are going
to be able to support the "new" metastock<BR>>>>
format. A recent newsletter from CSI say that while they are happy
to<BR>>>> continue supporting Metastock they cannot guarantee they will
be able<BR>>>to<BR>>>> post 12/31/99 because (quoting form their
letter) "we have been<BR>>>advised<BR>>>> by<BR>>>>
equis that they will not disclose to CSI the [new] metastock
format<BR>>>> details..."<BR>>>><BR>>>> Does
this mean that equis do not want users of their software using<BR>>>>
other<BR>>>> eod providers? I would GLADLY use the reuters
futures package if it<BR>>>> covered<BR>>>> global markets and
allowed back-adjusting for rollover gaps.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I am
at the verge of my 60day trial period and if I cannot make
head<BR>>>or<BR>>>> tails of this then I am going to return the
package.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Essan Soobratty.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Equis Support
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>> > The Y2K compliant version of
MetaStock for Windows, version 6.52 is<BR>>>> NOT<BR>>>> >
yet available. It should be posted to our web site this week.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > We posted a Reuters DataLink version of The DownLoader
version 6.52<BR>>>> > which is compliant and also has a utility for
the Euro. It is The<BR>>>> > DownLoader only. MetaStock for Windows
will follow with The<BR>>>DownLoader<BR>>>> > in it as
well.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Equis Support<BR>>>>
> http://www.equis.com/<BR>>>>
> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>>>
> Please include previous email answers and questions in
your<BR>>>response.<BR>>>> > Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock
Professional are registered<BR>>>> trademarks<BR>>>> > of
Equis International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert<BR>>>>
> Advisor, OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are
trademarks<BR>>>of<BR>>>> > Equis
International.<BR>>>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>>>>
> From: Lars Andersson [<A
href="mailto:Lars.Andersson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:Lars.Andersson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]<BR>>>>
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 4:38 AM<BR>>>> > To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>>>
> Subject: Re: MS 6.5 - Y2K ?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > We
had an email a few days ago where Equis said that we can now<BR>>>>
upgrade<BR>>>> > to 6.52 for the Y2K version.<BR>>>> >
Lars<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > At 11:14 28-12-1998 +0100, you
wrote:<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > How can MS 6.5 be handled by
year 2000 ? Do I need to upgrade to<BR>>>6.51<BR>>>>
or<BR>>>> > 6.52, before anything is available ?<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Happy New Year to All.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Reg.<BR>>>> > Marianne<BR>>>>
> <A
href="mailto:marianse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@eunet.no";>mailto:marianse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@eunet.no</A><BR>>>>
><BR>>><BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Date:
Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:20:35 -0600<BR>From: "Lionel and Gail Issen"
<<A
href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: MS 6.5 - Y2K ?<BR><BR>Here goes Reuters/Equis/Metastock shooting
themselves in the foot again. If<BR>MS ever requires me to use only
Reuters data, I will start using another<BR>piece of software. There are
other programs available, at least one of<BR>which is similar to
metastock.<BR><BR>Metastock has neither a monopoly nor a franchise. While it
has pluses (and<BR>minuses), it operates in a competetive
environement.<BR><BR>Management at Equis seems to operate in an isolated
world. Like our<BR>politicians in DC they sometimes seem immune to
reality. They dont seem to<BR>understand that their actions and inactions
broadcast messages loud and<BR>clear, almost as if we were attending their
meetings<BR><BR>Lionel<BR><BR>- -----Original Message-----<BR>From: Alton
Stephens <astephen@xxxxxxxx><BR>To:
metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Date:
Monday, December 28, 1998 3:25 PM<BR>Subject: Re: MS 6.5 - Y2K
?<BR><BR><BR>>"The way I read this is that ALL Data Providers, but
Reuters, are<BR>>competitors, and as such, will not get the new format.
This is an attempt<BR>>to force us to by our data from Reuters. As far
as I am concerned, you can<BR>>stick METASTOCK. QP2,
anyone?"<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Alton Stephens<BR>><A
href="mailto:astephen@xxxxxxxx";>astephen@xxxxxxxx</A><BR>>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>From: Equis Support <<A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>To: <A
href="mailto:'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'">'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'</A> <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>Date:
Monday, December 28, 1998 3:26 PM<BR>>Subject: RE: MS 6.5 - Y2K
?<BR>><BR>><BR>>>CSI is a direct competitor of Reuters
DataLink. The committee that<BR>>>decides who gets the write version
of MSFL (the MetaStock file library)<BR>>>determined that as a direct
competitor they were not going to give them<BR>>>the
library.<BR>>><BR>>>UnFair Advantage has never used the file library
materials, even when<BR>>>they were able to obtain it, choosing in the
past to write directly to<BR>>>MetaStock files and currently doing
so. In fact, they completely<BR>>>overwrite the entire data set each
day which can cause a great deal of<BR>>>fragmentation in the files which
eventually leads to problems.<BR>>><BR>>>Unfair Advantage currently
is able to create ASCII files which may be<BR>>>converted using The
DownLoader. This does not overwrite the entire data<BR>>>folder each
time which does not cause fragmentation of the files.
This<BR>>>method will be available in the future as
well.<BR>>><BR>>>You will still be able to obtain your data from
CSI. They will likely<BR>>>not be able to write directly to
MetaStock files much longer however.<BR>>><BR>>>Equis
Support<BR>>><A
href="http://www.equis.com/";>http://www.equis.com/</A><BR>>><A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>>Please
include previous email answers and questions in your
response.<BR>>><BR>>>Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock Professional
are registered trademarks<BR>>>of Equis International. Achelis
Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert<BR>>>Advisor, OptionScope,
Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are trademarks of<BR>>>Equis
International.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>>From: Essan Soobratty [<A
href="mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]<BR>>>Sent:
Monday, December 28, 1998 11:47 AM<BR>>>To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>; <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>>Subject: Re: MS
6.5 - Y2K ?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Thank you for clearing that
up! Now I get it.<BR>>><BR>>>Can you please comment on the
confusion (mostly my own...) re:CSI Unfair<BR>>>Advantage and their claim
that they are unable to guarantee that
their<BR>>>data<BR>>>generator program will be able to provide
compatible metastock data post<BR>>>1999 because, quote : "we have
been advised by equis that they will not<BR>>>disclose to CSI the [new]
metastock format details...". (see my earlier<BR>>>post
below).<BR>>><BR>>>Thanks again.<BR>>><BR>>>Essan
Soobratty<BR>>><BR>>>Equis Support
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> To clear up some
confusion.<BR>>>><BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows is the end of
day program.<BR>>>> MetaStock Professional is the real time program
that will also run in<BR>>>> end of day. These are DIFFERENT
programs.<BR>>>><BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows version 6.52 is
NOT yet released.<BR>>>> MetaStock Professional version 6.52 is
available.<BR>>>><BR>>>> MetaStock Professional is Y2K
complaint.<BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows version 6.51 is NOT certified
complaint.<BR>>>> MetaStock for Windows version 6.52 (not yet released)
will be<BR>>>certified<BR>>>> Y2K
complaint.<BR>>>><BR>>>> The DownLoader for Windows version
6.52 for Reuters DataLink is<BR>>>released<BR>>>> and is Y2K
compliant.<BR>>>> The DownLoader for Windows version 6.52 for all other
supported<BR>>>vendors<BR>>>> is Not yet
available.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Basically, when MetaStock for Windows
version 6.52 is released, any<BR>>>> MetaStock or The DownLoader
version 6.52(MetaStock for Windows and<BR>>>> MetaStock Professional)
will be Y2K compliant. Any version prior to<BR>>>> 6.52 will NOT
be certified Y2K compliant.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Equis
Support<BR>>>> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/";>http://www.equis.com/</A><BR>>>> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>>>
Please include previous email answers and questions in your
response.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock
Professional are registered<BR>>>trademarks<BR>>>> of Equis
International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert<BR>>>>
Advisor, OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are trademarks
of<BR>>>> Equis International.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>>>> From: Essan Soobratty [<A
href="mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]<BR>>>>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 9:10 AM<BR>>>> To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>; <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>>> Subject:
Re: MS 6.5 - Y2K ?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Hello equis
support.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Now I am confused. 20 minutes
before your email arrived I spoke with<BR>>>> John<BR>>>> (I
think he is in the sales dept) at equis. I asked the question
is<BR>>>> Metastock Pro y2k compliant and he said yes it
is.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Please confirm yes or
no?<BR>>>><BR>>>> What is also causing some frustration is the
confusion over whether<BR>>>CSI<BR>>>> Unfair Advantage are going
to be able to support the "new" metastock<BR>>>>
format. A recent newsletter from CSI say that while they are happy
to<BR>>>> continue supporting Metastock they cannot guarantee they will
be able<BR>>>to<BR>>>> post 12/31/99 because (quoting form their
letter) "we have been<BR>>>advised<BR>>>> by<BR>>>>
equis that they will not disclose to CSI the [new] metastock
format<BR>>>> details..."<BR>>>><BR>>>> Does
this mean that equis do not want users of their software using<BR>>>>
other<BR>>>> eod providers? I would GLADLY use the reuters
futures package if it<BR>>>> covered<BR>>>> global markets and
allowed back-adjusting for rollover gaps.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I am
at the verge of my 60day trial period and if I cannot make
head<BR>>>or<BR>>>> tails of this then I am going to return the
package.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Essan Soobratty.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Equis Support
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>> > The Y2K compliant version of
MetaStock for Windows, version 6.52 is<BR>>>> NOT<BR>>>> >
yet available. It should be posted to our web site this week.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > We posted a Reuters DataLink version of The DownLoader
version 6.52<BR>>>> > which is compliant and also has a utility for
the Euro. It is The<BR>>>> > DownLoader only. MetaStock for Windows
will follow with The<BR>>>DownLoader<BR>>>> > in it as
well.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Equis Support<BR>>>>
> http://www.equis.com/<BR>>>>
> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>>>
> Please include previous email answers and questions in
your<BR>>>response.<BR>>>> > Equis and MetaStock and MetaStock
Professional are registered<BR>>>> trademarks<BR>>>> > of
Equis International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader, Expert<BR>>>>
> Advisor, OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart Charts are
trademarks<BR>>>of<BR>>>> > Equis International.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>David Hunt<BR><A
href="http://www.adest.com.au";>http://www.adest.com.au</A><BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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I'm running into the same problem. I love MS but have lots of problems with
data providers. Since upgrading to MS Pro, the problems have gotten worse
as their are so few data providers that provide intraday data for MS. If
anyone knows of a solution, I'd love to hear about it as well.
Lorena Beccari
At 04:23 PM 29/12/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I have run into a stone wall as relates to changing data providers and
>using the Equis downloader. I want futures and stock quotes, I need them
>to be clean, and I want to access these quotes thru a dial up number, just
>as I have for my Dow Jones Service. I have contacted Theresa at QP2, and
>really don't understand what she has to tell me. From past posts on this
>lists, Rueters and Telescan and Dial Data have drawn much criticism as to
>their reliability and accuracy. Does anyone have a suggestion? I do not
>want to leave the MS program, but it seems as though I must now consider
>that as one of my options.
>
>Al Taglavore
>
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