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<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>John</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>After 
losing my data more times than I care to remember :), I have eliminated any 
tape, disk, etc. as well as my own involvement from my backup 
procedures.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I use 
Netstore which is an Internet backup facility located in London, England.&nbsp; 
It 'automatically' backs my data up daily, based upon whatever I identify for it 
to backup.&nbsp; The first backup can be quite large, but subsequent backups are 
compressed and use some sort of proprietary technique to just identify those 
parts of a file that have changed.&nbsp; For example, my daily Metastock data 
backup is usually 1k per commodity, regardless of file size.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Anyway, I find that I don't have the discipline to do these on my 
own.&nbsp; The cost of this backup is negligible,&nbsp; I think it costs me 
about $21 or so for 3 months.&nbsp; I've got it set up so that anytime after 5PM 
and I haven't used my system for 10 minutes, it dials up my ISP, logs on and 
backs up everything and then logs off.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I find 
this is the only approach I've been able to establish that insures comprehensive 
backups, regardless of whether I get sidetracked by my 8 year old to go 
play.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>As an 
added benefit, my data is backed up off site, so in case something happens here, 
I'll have everything elsewhere.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550325301-10121998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> John Sellers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 09, 1998 
    12:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
    Homegrown fundatmentals on Iomega<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Bookman Old Style" size=4>I have installed 
    one mobile rack in my Tower case of my desktop computer connected to IDE 
    cable #0. This allows a removable frame to be inserted and removed from the 
    tower case without opening the case. I have two removable frames of which 
    each one contains a hard drive. These are 7.2 and 5.7 GB sizes and I use 
    them primarily for backups and restoring data when necessary. I alternately 
    use each of the two hard drives for back ups. These hard drives compliment 
    my main working drive where my programs and data reside in a 3.2 GB hard 
    drive. I also have an old drive of 1.6GB installed on IDE #1 cable which 
    also accommodates the CD, but it is installed as the slave and is slower 
    than the other drives. It is used&nbsp; as a buffer if I need to transfer 
    data back and forth from the two removables. I have been using this 
    arrangement for about four months satisfactorily. The disadvantage of course 
    is the necessity of be carefully with hard drives removed from the system. 
    They may be damaged if dropped. I use the Seagate backup software that came 
    with Windows to record, compare and back up files.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="Bookman Old Style" size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=4>Cost wise the reomovable rack 
    with two drawers cost $40, the 7.2GB cost $160 and the finally 5.7 cost 
    $127. These were on sale and I figure for 13GB backup capability it is a 
    reasonable cost. Also the hard drives may be purchased from different 
    sources. If one vendor goes out of business the others probably will not. I 
    think the hard drive scheme will probably be used for sometime.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=4>If anyone wishes more info please 
    ask.</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>J.W.E. Roberts &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:jan.roberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jan.roberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
        </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>Wednesday, December 09, 1998 3:53 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: 
        Homegrown fundatmentals on Iomega<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>Hi Bill, <BR>I too 
        own a Jaz drive, and I'm sorry I ever spent money on the bloody thing. 
        I'm slightly better off than you insofar as mine broke down (twice) 
        inside the warranty period. <BR>If you really want to have fun just save 
        a complete partition to a Jaz medium, delete it, and try to restore the 
        data from the Jaz drive. THIS HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN A SINGLE CASE. 
        <BR>Why did Syquest go broke and not Iomega? Another victory of 
        marketing over quality? <BR>Kind regards &amp; happy trading, <BR>Jan 
        Willem Roberts 
        <P>Bill Saxon wrote: 
        <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>&nbsp;<FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>To 
            any one looking to buy the stock or a Jaz drive I offer this 
            caveat.&nbsp; I have just had my second drive go bad in a two and 
            one half year period.&nbsp; I had to pay $100 on the first because I 
            had it 13 months.&nbsp; I have had four cartridges go bad.&nbsp; 
            They have replaced these at no charge.&nbsp; 
            FWIW.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000><FONT 
            size=-1>Regards,</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT color=#000000><FONT 
            size=-1>Bill Saxon</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT color=#000000><FONT 
            size=-1><A 
            href="mailto:bsaxon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bsaxon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Laurent Gittler" <lgittler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: TC2000 vs QP2
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:39:34 +0100
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Thank you all for you replies,

Did anyone who tried both data providers find QP2 less convenient than
TC2000.

What I find quite difficult with TC2000 is that I must first get the data
in, then make an export (in a single large ASCII file because I found it is
the quickest to import into metastock).

How are data upload done using QP2, is it more effective ?

Also for QP2, is the easy scan utility an option ?

Laurent GITTLER

Sean W. Smith wrote:
>QP2 does have IRL industry groups built in updated weekly as well as S& P
>Data.  There is no CD update as they want you to maintain the DB on the HD.
>I consider this a +.  Those with a smaller HD may consider it a -.   HD's
>are cheap now.

That's right, anyway I have created a Hard disk watch list on my HD to get
everything in the TC2000 database, it slows down internet upgrade.

The problem

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean W. Smith <sean_smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: TC2000 vs QP2


>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Laurent Gittler
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 4:43 AM
>> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: TC2000 vs QP2
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am using TC2000 V4 and I saw that lot of you were now using QP2.
>>
>> 1) I have heard of some bad data in TC2000,
>> 2) More expensive monthly price (QP2 monthly charge for Internet
>> update rate
>> is: $18.95 per month, for equities, indexes and fundamentals., TC2000 :
>> 29.75 monthly)
>> 3) Of course more pb to feed data into metastock since you have to export
>> data into a text file for the day quotes (after 6:30 PM ET) time
>> (that's the
>> more convenient I found) then import them into metastock.
>>
>
>Yes or.  Go TC2K V4 to V3 to Metastock using data con.   It certainly could
>be easier.
>
>>
>> On the contrary QP2 has no industry groups nor it has CD ROM
automatically
>> sent 4 times a year (this is an option in QP2 called IRL priced
>> $229.00/year
>> for the IRL software and database).
>
>QP2 does have IRL industry groups built in updated weekly as well as S& P
>Data.  There is no CD update as they want you to maintain the DB on the HD.
>I consider this a +.  Those with a smaller HD may consider it a -.   HD's
>are cheap now.
>
>>
>> I would like to get some feedback about QP2 / TC2000 users on those
issues
>> or other issues either in QP2/TC2000, or any other daily data feed.
>>
>> Laurent GITTLER
>
>Things I like about TC2000. Earlier Data avaialability for dirty data.
>Similar time 6:30 to get Clean data.  TC2000 has a very nice list
management
>system.  Seems easier to use for novices.
>
>QP2 advantages.  Fast more robust scanning than for tecnicals and
>funnymentals.  Better support for metastock in numerous ways.  Update
>Existing Data, QPV, QP_LC.   Has hooks to completely automate the whole
>procedure which is not possible in  TC2K.
>
>Both programs are garning support in the industry for reading the favorite
>formats natively and eliminating metastock data ll together.  Currently QP2
>has native support from Advanced GET, Byte into the Market, and
>Technifilter+.  TC2K V4 has a couple including omnitrader and more.  There
>are still quite a few programs that read V3 natively.  Both these companies
>GIVE you the API to access their data with the package so if you want to
>write your own charting software you can.   I think it would be hard to go
>wrong with either one although QP2 does seem to favor users of metastock
>data more.
>
>Sean
>
>
>>
>>