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Thanks for your thoughts Ton,

I was trying to see if anyone had more info on the Linux thing, I was
not advocating it or DOS at all, just interested in the possibilities. 

Just looking for objective information on a subject that too often can
resemble religion or politics.

Best... John


A.J. Maas wrote:
> 
> Where you planning on installing Metastock for Java on your computer?
> How on earth will you have it running as nothing is logicaly applicable with
> that type of program on your computer, if you will ever get it to install itselve?
> 
> ****from the website :
> Linux is a free Unix-type operating system originally created by Linus Torvalds
> with the assistance of developers around the world. Linux is an independent
>  POSIX implementation and includes true multitasking, virtual memory, shared
>  libraries, demand loading, proper memory management, TCP/IP networking,
>  and other features consistent with Unix-type systems. Developed under
> the GNU General Public License, the source code for Linux is freely available
>  to everyone.****
> 
> Now what makes Linux so special is beyond my knowledge.
> And from the website have got the idea that Linux is Unix's twin OS. And we all
>  know that UNIX is very dull too, an old hat command line driven program of wich,
> besides DOS, there are (too) many and hence why were windows ever developed and
> made so very handy available? Since DOS was finaly barried, why on
> earth should we have to return to that type of dragging along old aged historical
>  boring DOS OS-like computing systems?
> 
> Apart from that, all of this websites promotional stuff and MUCH MUCH MUCH more
>  was already available, long time ago, in old hat DOS.
> 
> I cannot see JAVA become an easy home PC's OS to work with either, besides it being
> a far too much rediculasly technicaly developed system, unlogical for humans, it also
>  computes inefficient and very dull(=in an unlogic way) and is oh so very slow.
>  Ever noticed that JAVA enabled websites are one of the main couses of why, for private
> users, the internet is being so slow? It takes hours before a page is loaded, and in that
> also IF that page will ever get loaded.
> JAVA contains a very unstable systematic build-up. Not to be understood by humans and
> its so very often made errors are so frequent that at first a user will think that a virus has
>  hit the machine.
> First thing I do when noticing that I enter into a JAVA site is to press the red cross STOP
> button and disconnect immediatly or change sites.
> 
> Only for some automation jobs I can see the above types still surviving. But that can be
> easy overcome by more automation software being developed for Windows programs.
> Automation is the future after all. But a natural human computing session environment for
> its users also.
> As such can think that these auto-programs one day will be fully blended in with Windows
> or whatever its name in the future will be. Callings are for NT but unless someone is intrested
> too spend 48 hours a day on its software, I cannot see "un-logic for humans" programs
> to become a market standard. Some of the markets sectors will benefit from them as they
> can somehow afford to have the maintenance guys working and keep on working for them.
> >From some tests that have been held among new computer users, about 70% try the computer
> at first for a few months, and then end up storing it somewhere in a dark far away place, never
>  to be looked at again.
> 
> The way computing will get to be:
> 1. much like TV's being self-maintaining and loading from networks
> 2. also like TV's are being used and for some kind of entertainment like games, and only that
>     when its users are capable to keep it running.
> 3. the way lots of users are using it nowadays, pleased to have an easy multi-tasking available
>     kind of way within guiding frames, eg windows
> 4. office and industrial specific computers
> 
> So if you see a future for any of these auto-programs it will be on networks, local, inter-regional
> and international, eg somewhere in the line of corperate companies usage. Nothing to do with
> home usage, only synthaticaly, behind the scenes. Bugger all to do with my way of computing.
> And there we will see NT, however not much to do with me or with the others of the home
>  computer users.
>  First few things I did was to get rid of this networking functions, as they where too much
> interfering with the natural daily computer use, eg entering passwords, not available clients,
> unlogical operating hic-ups.
>   In this different type of NT-TV's or Web-TV's might have the future(in the very very long run):
> not pre-programmed ready OSs but maintenance free and careless free OS's.
> Apart from very friendly OS usage, this changing over from DOS to Windows have also given
> a computer a more human touch, much like automobile car technique, maintainable is at home.
>  If you never consider buying an airplane, why then bother with learning the airplane technique?
> (unless ofcourse when consideration is being made to work on an income in that kind of sector!!).
> 
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxx
> 
> Oh, and since upgrading to OE50 "have to" spell check any mail that is being send out here, so
> from this re-reading the mail just then, noticed I forgot to mention that OE401 is been made
>  available for the very few Unix platform users. So this way they can experience real easy
>  computing as well, working from/within windows frames and from clicking and NOT having TO TYPE.
> 
> Now will have to see if this last added bit will get pass the spell checker.
> 
> =======================================================
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Johnonetoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: donderdag 5 november 1998 17:38
> Subject: Good, Bad and the Ugly...
> 
> >Ton...
> >
> >I don't want to get into the good, bad and the ugly of Windows... but by
> >any chance do you know what's happening with Linux? I know Equis has a
> >Java version of Metastock and I wouldn't be surprised if a Linux version
> >is being considered.
> >
> >Anybody interested, a good site for info is
> >
> >http://www.redhat.com/
> >
> >Regards... John
> >
> >
> >A.J. Maas wrote:
> >>
> >> Good news, John.
> >>
> >> Just a few comments:
> >> -Do not be to harsh on 'ol' Bill G., as he neither can help computers hicups and complexiness
> >>  in fact I consider him/his teams to make computing a lot for the better over the years
> >> -You should have considered upgrading to Win95, as compared to the old DOSdays
> >>  everything and every program computes just better
> >