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--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom Tom" <michel_b_g@xxx> wrote:
>
> Ly,
> 
> I just come back to the GARCH estimator (because i am currently 
working on 
> AR est.).
> You say it is like ARIMA, mean a GARCH can be precessed from 
ARIMA ? Do you 
> have somes links so i can use the work on AR to compute GARCH 
model ?
> 
> GARCH seems the "new" tool for time serie financial analyst. From 
what i 
> have read (not a lot...)  price are considered like random walk, 
but squared 
> return (volatility) seems correlated with past volatility values.
> So GARCH has been invented (even Nobel Prize for GARCH(1,1) !!), 
and is one 
> of the only predicive tool wich has been seriously regarded by 
> banks/institution. Now it is highly used for VaR (Value at Risk) 
for 
> portfolio risk sizing.
> So GARCH seems recognized by scientist and financial inst. Whow !
> 
> Why for us, small capital traders, we don't use those tools... why 
aren't 
> they implement in TA software as basic indicators if it is such a 
great tool 
> !? Should be nice to use it to balance risk on a portfolio like 
bank do 
> it.... maybe because after it is know, it won't work for banks... 
so they 
> keep it : )
> .... or maybe because keep it simple is better for us ; )
> 
> To make the correlation with Amibroker and last new awaited 
feature, Thomas, 
> maybe we can hope with new portfolio some VaR estimators 
included ? Will be 
> so great ! Multivariate GARCH for multiple position holded risk 
> estimation/pred ...
> If price analisys is not working, maybe risk management sould be 
> rediscover/improved and highlighted in AT prog.
> 
> If someone got some assymetric GARCH code (AFL, or VB/C), should 
be nice to 
> share !
> (assym. is better for equity volatility estimation, because it 
takes the 
> fact that big price decrease is followed by more volatility on the 
price 
> than big price increase).
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Mcih.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: loveyourenemynow
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:21 AM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Random Walk - step 2 - : Predicitable ?
> 
> 
> Hi Chuk,
> 
> if markets would offer technical analysis opportunities on a
> consistent basis then a lot of traders would start to take 
advantage
> of it, and there would be no opportunity anymore, because prices
> would be absorb this action.
> 
> Volatility cannot be traded (you can use option, but their pricing 
is
> also depending on the underlying and in a not totally understood 
way)
> so volatility can actually be modeled quite successfully (from 
what I
> read on some statistical arbitrage notes I found on the NYU
> mathematical finance website) with moving averages or auto 
regressive
> models such as GARCH.
> I guess you can try to do it yourself, take some volatility time
> series and see how successful GARCH is, which in the end is ARIMA.
> 
> I tend to believe only what I can experiment, so I cannot tell you 
for
> sure.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ly
> 
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