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[amibroker] Re: ABtool v0.0.5 beta - What is this t hing?



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You'll need High and Low since beginning of trade and keep in mind 
that DD's are a measure of the equity curve not of one and only one 
trade.

So for example if I buy a stock at 10 and it goes to 20 and I sell it 
at 15, then I buy another stock at 15 at it goes straight to 10 then

Here's the equity picture 

Bought 100 @ 10 = Equity of 1000
Have   100 @ 20 = Equity of 2000 (Max)
Sold   100 @ 15 = Equity of 1500
Bought 100 @ 15 = Equity of 1500
Sold   100 @ 10 = Equity of 1000 (Future Min)

DD = Max (2000) - Future Min (1000) / Max (2000) = 50%.

DD's should be calculated based on ACCOUNT value which of course 
would include any cash you were holding in addition to whatever 
securities you were holding. 


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "amiabilityy" <amiabilityy@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Fred.
>   I will add it soon as i could use lowest since the buy when 
there   
> was a sell.
> 
>  peter.
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxx> wrote:
> > DD's can unfortunately NOT be computed without knowing where 
prices 
> > went while the trade was open.  
> > 
> > Example: You buy a stock at 50 and you sell it at 100, looks like 
> > there's no drawdown just a nice 100% gain right ? ... but in 
> between 
> > where you bought it at 50 and sold it at 100 it went to 200 ... 
> > drawdown = 200 (Max Equity) - 100 (Final Equity) / 200 (Max 
Equity) 
> = 
> > 50% !!!
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "amiabilityy" 
<amiabilityy@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > > Hi fred,
> > > 
> > >   It still needs some work,
> > >    
> > >   At the moment it it only contains 
> > > 
> > > START DATE	END DATE	FINAL EQUITY	PER OF 
WINTRADES
> > > 	MAXLOSSTRADE	MAXWINTRADE
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   The data is only the data from an exploration, so it does not 
> > > contain the data of e.g.
> > >  if there a are 200 different tickers in the sheet it would not 
> > have 
> > > the whole history of all these 200 tickers, 
> > >   It only contains the data of the buy day and sell day,( the 
> data 
> > > needed to calculate the profits, the rank data, buy and sell 
> dates).
> > > The buy and sell data of a completed trade of a ticker, from 
the 
> > ami 
> > > exploration is in 1 row.
> > > 
> > > wouldnt the draw down be able to be worked out from the profit 
> and 
> > > loss results, as it is testing multiple tickers which is 
> basically 
> > > like testing 1 ticker.  
> > >   
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 2) The overlapping dates is handled correctly,
> > > 
> > >   the buy date is sorted first in descending order, and the 
rank 
> > > value 
> > > is the second sort order, so if 20  different tickers  buydates 
> > fall 
> > > on the same day ,then the ticker on the day with the highest 
> > ranking  
> > > will be the first selection. 
> > > The rank is in ascending order.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > the highest rank is kept in sheet 1, 
> > >  the next ticker to be kept on sheet 1 will need a buydate that 
> is 
> > > greater than the previous sell date.
> > >   
> > > 
> > >  So The the rank value will be used as the first choice if 
there 
> > are 
> > > more than 1 ticker with the same buydate.
> > >   Then by comparing the buy date to the previous rows sell date,
> > >    If the buy date is less than or equal to the previous 
tickers 
> > sell 
> > > date , it will be placed on a new sheet.
> > > 
> > >   The first sheet now contains no overlapping dates. 
> > >  
> > >     This is repeated for the other sheets. 
> > >   
> > > 
> > >  I would need to add code to control the amount traded.
> > >  At the moment it compounds, but will stop trading, when the 
> equity 
> > > of the last trade  was around $1000.00
> > >   I was also thinking of using a percentage of the volume*close 
> of 
> > > the previous day as a maximum value to trade if the equity was 
> 
> > than 
> > > that value.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Peter.
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Fred" <fctonetti@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > A few statements and / or questions with regards to DYNAPORT.
> > > > 
> > > > 1.  Does it have available to it all price history of what 
ever 
> > the 
> > > > trades were without which DrawDowns can NOT be calculated.
> > > > 
> > > > 2.  Does it properly handle overlapping trades ?
> > > > 
> > > > 3.  How does i keep one from being > 100% invested ?
> > > > 
> > > > etc. etc. ...
> > > > 
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "amiabilityy" 
> > <amiabilityy@xxxx> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >   Ken 
> > > > >  if you have excel , try the DYNAPORT.ZIP file i uploaded.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Peter.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ken Close" 
<closeks@xxxx> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Fred: does your message mean that a "system" that buys 
and 
> > > sells 
> > > > > say,
> > > > > > the top ranked stock when a buy signal is issued (the Buy 
> > logic 
> > > > > being
> > > > > > different than the score logic).....that such a system 
can 
> be 
> > > > > BACKTESTED
> > > > > > using this ABTool?  Is that what you are saying?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Fred [mailto:fctonetti@x...] 
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:17 PM
> > > > > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: ABtool v0.0.5 beta - What is 
this 
> t 
> > > hing?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > nand,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From my limited knowledge and experience ABTool appears 
to 
> > > allow 
> > > > > > writing to a file almost anything anyone could want which 
> > could 
> > > > be 
> > > > > > used for example to "score" an entire WatchList bar by 
bar 
> as 
> > > to 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > liklihood of some particular symbol being a better buy at 
> > some 
> > > > bar 
> > > > > > then another over the entire lenght of their history.  
This 
> > > file 
> > > > > > could then be sorted and "ranked" if you will and used as 
> the 
> > > > > driving 
> > > > > > force for trading or testing a portfolio trading system.  
> > > > > > Additionally there are new table functions in the latest 
> > > release 
> > > > > > which again from my limited knowledge would although they 
> > would 
> > > > be 
> > > > > > faster because they are in memory as opposed to writing 
to 
> > disk 
> > > > > they  
> > > > > > may also be limited in scope to dealing with the current 
> > stock 
> > > as 
> > > > > > opposed to the entire watchlist.  I hope this limited 
> > > description 
> > > > > > helps somewhat.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best Regards, Fred
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nkis22" <nkishor@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Can someone please tell me what is this ABTool and
> > > > > > > what does it do? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > nand
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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