[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

FW: CSI Data Nightmare



PureBytes Links

Trading Reference Links

Thanks Galen ;It's nice to see some rational thought and less emotion
Over the years I have found CSI to be a very solid data provider with
excellent tech support..

Kind Regards,
Tony Gray.

-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Cawley [mailto:gcawley@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 17:29_Grail
To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx; 1000mileman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: CSI Data Nightmare

I called CSI today to ask about any impending changes.  It was initially
confusing but I
learned a few things worth passing along.

Yes, CSI is considering limiting users to a limit of 59 commodities in a
portfolio.  I don't
know if it's a done deal.  Key terms are "commodity/market" and
"portfolio".   By
"commodity/market" they mean mean a single futures contract, e.g. corn,
s&p, etc.  They did
not specify a limit on months, so I assume july corn and dec corn would
count as a single
commodity -- I think (need to check that out).  Options are considered
as separate
commodities, so all the option strikes on the s&p would be count as one
single commodity
against the 59 limit.

Until the phone call, I hadn't been aware that CSI makes a distinction
between downloading,
charting, and adding to a commodity to a portfolio.  So under the
proposed change, there is
no limit to the number of commodities you can download, view, and chart.
However, the limit
kicks in when you go to save the commodity to a "portfolio"--that's
where CSI wants to limit
you to 59 commodities.

Each commodity over the 59 limit will incur an annual charge of $1 per
additional commodity.
If you want to add an additional commodity to your portfolio, you have
to call up CSI with
your user ID and they will add it to their server.  For existing Unfair
Advantage users, the
changes and charges won't take effect until you renew your contract.

CSI's stated rationale is cost savings.  They claim to have done several
studies showing that
most users save fewer than 59 commodities in their portfolios.  To
compensate, I was told
that the annual cost of subscribing to a comprehensive package such as
"world futures" would
drop from the current $700 plus to somewhere in the $540 range.  That's
what I was told,
don't take it as gospel truth.

I've been very satisfied with CSI over the years.  Since one of its
strengths is the breadth
of its market coverage, I was very dismayed to hear about the proposed
59 commodity limit.
Upon further review, the changes don't seem so bad:  I will still be
able to download and
view any number of contracts; the incremental cost of adding further
contracts in a portfolio
is cheap; and there's a chance that my base subscription rate will drop
significantly.

I hope I've explained things accurately and clearly, but if you have
further questions you
should contact CSI directly.

Regards,
Galen Cawley





> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Brower" <1000mileman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:03 AM
> Subject: CSI Data Nightmare
>
> > Has anyone else heard that tonight CSI will be revising their data
format
> > to lock-out any users trying to download more than 59 commodities?
I
> heard
> > they plan to demand higher payment schemes by ignoring any current
> > contractual agreements.  It appears the idea is to declare any user
> > downloading more than 59 commodities a commercial user.  If this is
true,
> > Pinnacle Data will see waves of business from CSI defectors.  Do I
smell
> > class action suit?  Buckle your seat belts.
> >
> >
> > Bill Brower
> > Email: 1000mileman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web Site: http://www.insideedge.net
> > Web Site: http://www.portfolioriskanalysis.com
> >
>
>