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>From: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>
>To: "a a" <goldcapstone@xxxxxxxxx>, <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: ?Legal Question:?? What is REAL TIME???
>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:13:45 -0700
>
>Real time is not intentionally adding a delay.

That's absurd. If they set up an infrastructure for 100
clients, sell it to 100,000, and the data is delayed (let's
say) a week, clearly they are negligent and (if they
are selling it as "real time") fraudulent.

BW

>We have to live with whatever the priorities are that they establish.
>
>Jim Bronke
>Phoenix, AZ
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "a a" <goldcapstone@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:44 AM
>Subject: Re: ?Legal Question:?? What is REAL TIME???
>
>
>: Jim,your an engineer and computer whiz, so your
>: obviously logical.  Logically solving the issue I
>: bring up cannot be directed towards the companies
>: until we first define what Real Time is, legally.  If
>: the companies are within their rights, the problems
>: they have getting there data out is an issue that has
>: no legal consiquence, only commercial.  If however,
>: the FCC defines 'EAL TIME'as say,... "within 10 sec.
>: from reception from exchange" then, the companies that
>: do not meet the requirements have a problem... but not
>: until the definition of 'REAL TIME' comes to light.
>: Thus the question remains, What Is Real Time?
>: A
>:
>:
>:
>: --- Jim Bronke <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>: > The problem with a satellite is obvious. They can't
>: > make the changes
>: > necessary to handle the increased work load. There
>: > is no intention to have
>: > the data anything but real time.
>: > Just the transmission delay adds 4 sec.
>: >
>: > Jim Bronke
>: > Phoenix, AZ
>: >
>: >
>: >
>: > ----- Original Message -----
>: > From: "a a" <goldcapstone@xxxxxxxxx>
>: > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>: > Cc: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>
>: > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:04 AM
>: > Subject: Re: ?Legal Question:?? What is REAL TIME???
>: >
>: >
>: > : Hey Jim,
>: > : Thanks for the response.  It is possible that
>: > their
>: > : arguement could be technical limitations, however,
>: > if
>: > : it is, then an upgrade by that company to meet the
>: > : requirements of the law is in order.  My complaint
>: > is
>: > : that I see no current law that creates a standard
>: > that
>: > : must be complied with before a company can call
>: > their
>: > : data REAL TIME.  Can I send data out 5 Minutes
>: > delayed
>: > : and Call it real time?  If not, why not?  If there
>: > is
>: > : a standard there what is it?  If not, why isn't
>: > there
>: > : one?
>: > : A
>: > :
>: > :
>: > : --- Jim Bronke <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>: > : > They would argue that it is technical
>: > limitations.
>: > : > Which it is. They just
>: > : > don't spend any time criticizing their own
>: > : > operation. We learn the hard way.
>: > : >
>: > : > Jim Bronke
>: > : > Phoenix, AZ
>: > : >
>: > : >
>: > : >
>: > : > ----- Original Message -----
>: > : > From: "a a" <goldcapstone@xxxxxxxxx>
>: > : > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>: > : > Cc: "TaoOfDow" <taoofdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>: > : > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:20 AM
>: > : > Subject: ?Legal Question:?? What is REAL TIME???
>: > : >
>: > : >
>: > : > : Group,
>: > : > : Consider this.  There have been some on the
>: > list
>: > : > who
>: > : > : have complained that their feed is frequently
>: > : > behind
>: > : > : 30 seconds, sometimes as much as 2 minutes.
>: > Is it
>: > : > : possible that there are NO LAWS regulating
>: > such
>: > : > : things?  How is it not possible for the FCC to
>: > be
>: > : > : involved in this matter. Why the silence?
>: > Without
>: > : > a
>: > : > : legal background, one would have to conclude
>: > that
>: > : > : there are no laws regulating this, making it
>: > 'OK'
>: > : > to
>: > : > : charge $295\mo. for real time data that isn't
>: > : > 'REAL
>: > : > : TIME'. Charging for REAL TIME DATA, when the
>: > data
>: > : > is
>: > : > : DELAYED for all practical uses, is in my
>: > opinion a
>: > : > : dishonest and crooked act perpetuated on the
>: > : > trading
>: > : > : public.
>: > : > : IN SHORT:  What is REAL TIME DATA?
>: > : > : Awaiting discussion,
>: > : > : A
>: > : > :
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>: > :
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