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Hi Dusant,
I have indeed always created my composite in downloader - it is very simple.
However, it only creates a close-close, and in MS8 does not allow P&F charts
with negative values.
I didn't see you chart because I usually get MS posts as a digest. However,I
did go to the site to read your post online, but see that the chart
attachment has not been stored. Perhaps you could send it to me directly?
Thanks,
Kind regards,
Gram.
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:21:33 +0200
> From: <gramario@xxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 1155
>
> Hi Dusant,
> Thanks for your help. A couple of questions, however, if you have a
moment.
> First, am not sure how to use this formula below; am I to create a new
> indicator in Indicator builder?
> Further, does it create a true composite i.e. OHLC - OHLC, and then a
final
> commodity which uses the O-O, Max of all four for the H, Min of all four
for
> the low, and C-C?
>
> Finally, I can't do it myself as I do not have MS9, and the whole point of
> the exercise is to verify that the P&F charting in MS9 works with negative
> values or not prior to buying it.
> Thanks,
> kind regards,
> Gram.
>
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:48:46 +0530
> > From: "Dusant" <dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 1154 Creating a composite
> >
> > Gram,
> > You can do it yourself using the security() function which works like
> this:
> > a:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > b:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > a-b;
> > Dusant
> > Chief Architect
> > http://www.candlestrength.com/
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: gramario@xxxxxx
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1154
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> > If you are right then I am very grateful for your message. I am also
> > disillusioned with Equis sales who told me the opposite. Could you do
a
> > further test by creating a composite in downloader (one commodity
> subtracted
> > from another which produces negative values) and confirm this.
> > Corn Sept. - Wheat Sept (both 2004 contracts) should do the trick I
> feel.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gram.
> >
> >
> > [This message contained attachments]
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:23:11 -0000
> > From: "murusprimus" <sace@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: re: Amibroker to MetaStock code
> >
> >
> > Sorry Pete, I don't have AB so don't know what might be wrong.
> >
> > Jose might see the posts - he's an ABer and might work things out.
> >
> > Wallace.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 15:38:00 -0000
> From: "Pascal Daulton" <pascaldaulton@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Moneymaximizer
>
> From
> http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/0898/TradeNew
> s9808/TradeNews9808.html
>
> Trading Research Design
> phone 716 86-0179 (US), +32.3.820.72.55 (Europe), +65 9619 8734 (Asia)
>
> My feeling is that they've died, probably in 1999, from stuff on the
> web. Certainly their site no longer exists.
>
> Pascal
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bane226 [mailto:bane226@x...]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:39 PM
> > > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [Metastockusers] Moneymaximizer
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently read a review in S&C regarding position sizing
> software
> > in
> > > which they discuss MoneyMaximizer by Trading Research Design, Inc.
> > >
> > > I have tried to locate them on the web and finding their phone
> > > number. I am not sure if they are still in business. Is anyone
> > > aware of whether they are still around? Has anyone used their
> > > software? Do you know where I could locate a copy of their
> > software.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 15:51:44 -0000
> From: "superfragalist" <jackolso@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Money Max Downloads
>
> Download it (maybe) and report on how it works. One of these guys may
> have it on their server. It was shareware anyway.
>
>
>
> http://www.zdnetindia.com/downloads/catinfo/2066,0,vcpurchaseinfo,asce
> ,60,389.html (good source)
>
> or
>
>
> http://www.downseek.com/download/6999.asp
>
> or
>
> http://www.lencom.com/desc/indexN1178.html
>
> or
>
> http://simplythebest.net/shareware/business/financial/finances_2.html
>
>
> or
>
>
> http://www.ezgoal.com/channels/business/f.asp?f=181605
>
> or
>
>
> http://www.thaibd.com/ThaiBD/downloads/business_finance/m.html
>
>
> or
>
>
> http://www.itnetix.com/f/business/c.asp?p=22&l=m&i=business-software
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:21:59 +0530
> From: "Dusant" <dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 1155
>
> Gram,
> First: the security function works with version 7.x upwards.
> Second: Yes, you need to create a new indicator for every index which you
want.
> Third: Its going to be complex, creating an open/high/low/close etc for
each index.
> Fourth: MS can create P&F charts with negative values. (Chart attached)
> Fifth: I do not think you can create P&F with indicators.
> Sixth: The simplest thing in your case would be to create a composite,
where only two securities are involved.
> That will plot, and also give you P&F charts.
> Dusant
> Chief Architect
> http://www.candlestrength.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gramario@xxxxxx>
> To: <Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1155
>
>
> > Hi Dusant,
> > Thanks for your help. A couple of questions, however, if you have a
moment.
> > First, am not sure how to use this formula below; am I to create a new
> > indicator in Indicator builder?
> > Further, does it create a true composite i.e. OHLC - OHLC, and then a
final
> > commodity which uses the O-O, Max of all four for the H, Min of all four
for
> > the low, and C-C?
> >
> > Finally, I can't do it myself as I do not have MS9, and the whole point
of
> > the exercise is to verify that the P&F charting in MS9 works with
negative
> > values or not prior to buying it.
> > Thanks,
> > kind regards,
> > Gram.
> >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:48:46 +0530
> > > From: "Dusant" <dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 1154 Creating a composite
> > >
> > > Gram,
> > > You can do it yourself using the security() function which works like
> > this:
> > > a:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > > b:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > > a-b;
> > > Dusant
> > > Chief Architect
> > > http://www.candlestrength.com/
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: gramario@xxxxxx
> > > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1154
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > > If you are right then I am very grateful for your message. I am also
> > > disillusioned with Equis sales who told me the opposite. Could you
do a
> > > further test by creating a composite in downloader (one commodity
> > subtracted
> > > from another which produces negative values) and confirm this.
> > > Corn Sept. - Wheat Sept (both 2004 contracts) should do the trick I
> > feel.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gram.
> > >
> > >
> > > [This message contained attachments]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:23:11 -0000
> > > From: "murusprimus" <sace@xxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: re: Amibroker to MetaStock code
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Pete, I don't have AB so don't know what might be wrong.
> > >
> > > Jose might see the posts - he's an ABer and might work things out.
> > >
> > > Wallace.
>
>
> [This message contained attachments]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:41:42 +0530
> From: "Dusant" <dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 1155
>
> Sorry forgot to attach chart.
> Dusant
> Chief Architect
> http://www.candlestrength.com/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dusant
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 9:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1155
>
>
> Gram,
> First: the security function works with version 7.x upwards.
> Second: Yes, you need to create a new indicator for every index which
you want.
> Third: Its going to be complex, creating an open/high/low/close etc for
each index.
> Fourth: MS can create P&F charts with negative values. (Chart attached)
> Fifth: I do not think you can create P&F with indicators.
> Sixth: The simplest thing in your case would be to create a composite,
where only two securities are involved.
> That will plot, and also give you P&F charts.
> Dusant
> Chief Architect
> http://www.candlestrength.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gramario@xxxxxx>
> To: <Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1155
>
>
> > Hi Dusant,
> > Thanks for your help. A couple of questions, however, if you have a
moment.
> > First, am not sure how to use this formula below; am I to create a new
> > indicator in Indicator builder?
> > Further, does it create a true composite i.e. OHLC - OHLC, and then a
final
> > commodity which uses the O-O, Max of all four for the H, Min of all
four for
> > the low, and C-C?
> >
> > Finally, I can't do it myself as I do not have MS9, and the whole
point of
> > the exercise is to verify that the P&F charting in MS9 works with
negative
> > values or not prior to buying it.
> > Thanks,
> > kind regards,
> > Gram.
> >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:48:46 +0530
> > > From: "Dusant" <dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 1154 Creating a composite
> > >
> > > Gram,
> > > You can do it yourself using the security() function which works
like
> > this:
> > > a:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > > b:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > > a-b;
> > > Dusant
> > > Chief Architect
> > > http://www.candlestrength.com/
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: gramario@xxxxxx
> > > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1154
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > > If you are right then I am very grateful for your message. I am
also
> > > disillusioned with Equis sales who told me the opposite. Could you
do a
> > > further test by creating a composite in downloader (one commodity
> > subtracted
> > > from another which produces negative values) and confirm this.
> > > Corn Sept. - Wheat Sept (both 2004 contracts) should do the trick
I
> > feel.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gram.
> > >
> > >
> > > [This message contained attachments]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:23:11 -0000
> > > From: "murusprimus" <sace@xxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: re: Amibroker to MetaStock code
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Pete, I don't have AB so don't know what might be wrong.
> > >
> > > Jose might see the posts - he's an ABer and might work things out.
> > >
> > > Wallace.
>
>
> [This message contained attachments]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:55:21 -0500
> From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Digest Number 1155
>
> Dusant:
>
>
>
> The P&F chart was not attached. Can you resend it?
>
>
>
> Lionel
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Dusant [mailto:dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:52 AM
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1155
>
>
>
> Gram,
>
> First: the security function works with version 7.x upwards.
>
> Second: Yes, you need to create a new indicator for every index which you
> want.
>
> Third: Its going to be complex, creating an open/high/low/close etc for
each
> index.
>
> Fourth: MS can create P&F charts with negative values. (Chart attached)
>
> Fifth: I do not think you can create P&F with indicators.
>
> Sixth: The simplest thing in your case would be to create a composite,
where
> only two securities are involved.
>
> That will plot, and also give you P&F charts.
>
> Dusant
> Chief Architect
> http://www.candlestrength.com/
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: < <mailto:gramario@xxxxxx> gramario@xxxxxx>
>
> To: < <mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:51 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1155
>
>
>
> > Hi Dusant,
> > Thanks for your help. A couple of questions, however, if you have a
> moment.
> > First, am not sure how to use this formula below; am I to create a new
> > indicator in Indicator builder?
> > Further, does it create a true composite i.e. OHLC - OHLC, and then a
> final
> > commodity which uses the O-O, Max of all four for the H, Min of all four
> for
> > the low, and C-C?
> >
> > Finally, I can't do it myself as I do not have MS9, and the whole point
of
> > the exercise is to verify that the P&F charting in MS9 works with
negative
> > values or not prior to buying it.
> > Thanks,
> > kind regards,
> > Gram.
> >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:48:46 +0530
> > > From: "Dusant" < <mailto:dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: Digest Number 1154 Creating a composite
> > >
> > > Gram,
> > > You can do it yourself using the security() function which works like
> > this:
> > > a:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > > b:= security("x:\datapath\securitysymbol", c);
> > > a-b;
> > > Dusant
> > > Chief Architect
> > > <http://www.candlestrength.com/> http://www.candlestrength.com/
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <mailto:gramario@xxxxxx> gramario@xxxxxx
> > > To: <mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1154
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > > If you are right then I am very grateful for your message. I am also
> > > disillusioned with Equis sales who told me the opposite. Could you
do
> a
> > > further test by creating a composite in downloader (one commodity
> > subtracted
> > > from another which produces negative values) and confirm this.
> > > Corn Sept. - Wheat Sept (both 2004 contracts) should do the trick I
> > feel.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gram.
> > >
> > >
> > > [This message contained attachments]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:23:11 -0000
> > > From: "murusprimus" < <mailto:sace@xxxxxxx> sace@xxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: re: Amibroker to MetaStock code
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Pete, I don't have AB so don't know what might be wrong.
> > >
> > > Jose might see the posts - he's an ABer and might work things out.
> > >
> > > Wallace.
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:44:59 +1000
> From: "Richard Dale" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Digest Number 1155
>
> The SECURITY function is in all versions of Metastock Professional. It
was
> added into Metastock for Windows (the end-of-day version) in v8.01
(anything
> below this does not have the SECURITY function).
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> From: Dusant [mailto:dusant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 1:52 AM
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Digest Number 1155
>
>
> First: the security function works with version 7.x upwards.
>
>
> [This message contained attachments]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:45:30 -0000
> From: "bane226" <bane226@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Moneymaximizer
>
> Any suggestion for a reasonably priced position sizing software?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> aNY--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Pascal Daulton"
> <pascaldaulton@xxxx> wrote:
> > From
> >
> http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/0898/TradeNe
> w
> > s9808/TradeNews9808.html
> >
> > Trading Research Design
> > phone 716 86-0179 (US), +32.3.820.72.55 (Europe), +65 9619 8734
> (Asia)
> >
> > My feeling is that they've died, probably in 1999, from stuff on
> the
> > web. Certainly their site no longer exists.
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bane226 [mailto:bane226@x...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:39 PM
> > > > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [Metastockusers] Moneymaximizer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I recently read a review in S&C regarding position sizing
> > software
> > > in
> > > > which they discuss MoneyMaximizer by Trading Research Design,
> Inc.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried to locate them on the web and finding their phone
> > > > number. I am not sure if they are still in business. Is
> anyone
> > > > aware of whether they are still around? Has anyone used their
> > > > software? Do you know where I could locate a copy of their
> > > software.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:54:47 -0400
> From: "Andrew Tomlinson" <andrew_tomlinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Re: Moneymaximizer
>
>
> One thing to look at is Tradesim, which will run portfolio analyses based
on
> different position sizing parameters. The only pricey option is the
> Enterprise version, which gives you Monte Carlo, but if you don't want
that
> then you can use one of the lower level packages.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bane226 [mailto:bane226@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 5:45 PM
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Moneymaximizer
>
>
> Any suggestion for a reasonably priced position sizing software?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> aNY--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Pascal Daulton"
> <pascaldaulton@xxxx> wrote:
> > From
> >
> http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/0898/TradeNe
> w
> > s9808/TradeNews9808.html
> >
> > Trading Research Design
> > phone 716 86-0179 (US), +32.3.820.72.55 (Europe), +65 9619 8734
> (Asia)
> >
> > My feeling is that they've died, probably in 1999, from stuff on
> the
> > web. Certainly their site no longer exists.
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bane226 [mailto:bane226@x...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:39 PM
> > > > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [Metastockusers] Moneymaximizer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I recently read a review in S&C regarding position sizing
> > software
> > > in
> > > > which they discuss MoneyMaximizer by Trading Research Design,
> Inc.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried to locate them on the web and finding their phone
> > > > number. I am not sure if they are still in business. Is
> anyone
> > > > aware of whether they are still around? Has anyone used their
> > > > software? Do you know where I could locate a copy of their
> > > software.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:09:29 -0000
> From: "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Moneymaximizer
>
>
> Bane, I've been coding position-sizing MS formulae for regular
> clients.
>
> Basically, you need to adjust position size to maximum expected
> individual trade risk, where risk can be defined as:
>
> $RiskLong = EntryLongPrice - VolatilityBasedStopLoss + Slippage
>
> $RiskShort = VolatilityBasedStopLoss - EntryShortPrice + Slippage
>
> In effect, volatile trades with larger risk will use a smaller
> position size for lower profits/smaller drawdowns, and less volatile
> trades will use a larger position size for higher than average
> profits/normal drawdowns.
>
> The net result of variable position-sizing is a much smoother profit
> equity curve, which equates to bigger trade sizes and higher profits
> for normal risk.
>
>
> jose '-)
> http://users.bigpond.com/prominex/pegasus.htm
>
>
> --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bane226" <bane226@xxxx> wrote:
> > Any suggestion for a reasonably priced position sizing software?
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> > Thanks
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