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Hi Michael

Congratulations on where you've been able to get to in your trading setup.
I'm envious and humbled at the same time. Obviously you're already
established where I'm wanting to go. Will get back to you on Markov
processes either on or off List if you like.

I have just finished a year of Excel work with some other traders. They have
finally put together all of the Hilbert functions plus the Hurst and R/S
stuff. So Markov's are next on my list. Unfortunately, Excel can't go there
very well.

Here's the home site for the guy that wrote the Matrix Forecasting - Linear
Algebra article in the August issue of Futures Mag

http://www.racecom.com/

Best regards

Walter


----- Original Message -----
From: MikeSuesserott <MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:43 AM
Subject: AW: Numerical Linear Algebra


> Hi Walter,
>
> as a guy who likes to use Markov processes a lot as a means of quantifying
> trading decisions, I can certainly confirm that 300-row matrices can and
do
> occur in "every-day" calculations. Luckily for today's computer users,
> today's computers are equal to the task.
>
> To give a concrete numerical example of a larger-type matrix calculation,
I
> had Mathematica build a 300x300 matrix consisting of double-precision
random
> numbers between 0 and 1 (as would be typical for transition probabilities
in
> Markov chains). I thought it might be instructive to list the durations
for
> Mathematica to define the 300x300 matrix, then take its determinant and
its
> inverse - quite a task, actually, which not so long ago would have
required
> an expensive workstation computer to do the calculations in reasonable
time.
> Here are Mathematica's results on my old 450 MHz PIII, and, mind, running
in
> interpretive mode, i.e.. without compilation:
>
> Fill 300x300 matrix with double-precision numbers:  0.1 sec
> Take the determinant of that matrix:                0.4 sec
> Invert 300x300 matrix:                              1.7 sec
>
> As we know from working with Hilbert matrices, it is good to be suspicious
> of larger-scale iterative results; so I checked the results by doing the
> same calculation with higher than double-precision accuracy which is 16
> digits. I chose an internal precision of 50 decimal digits; the above
> results had been OK, though, and times were just a little longer for the
> high-accuracy calculations, with 0.5 sec and 1.8 sec, respectively.
>
> I don't know if this is of any interest to you or the list, just thought
I'd
> add my two cents' worth.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael Suesserott
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Im Auftrag von W Lake
> > Gesendet: Thursday, September 06, 2001 15:59
> > An: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Betreff: Numerical Linear Algebra
> >
> >
> > Hi Lionel
> >
> > As the introductory paragraph at the site says:
> >
> > "... software for the solution of linear algebra problems ..."
> > "... for solving problems in numerical linear algebra, ..."
> >
> > trading is not mentioned
> >
> > Most college books on linear algebra usually deal with small
> > matrices, i.e.,
> > 3 rows x 5 columns, whereas in business and in trading you are
> > going to need
> > at least 300 rows x "lots" of variables, etc. Problems of this size are
> > referred to as numerical linear algebra.
> >
> > Michael can probably be of more help in describing the
> > "difference" between
> > the two. The terms used become complicated and merge with
> > computer science,
> > i.e., linear programming.
> >
> > Some of the programs listed at the site are for parallel
> > processing or even
> > for large supercomputers, i.e., Crays, but as you know, we
> > average guys are
> > dealing with more horsepower every year.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Walter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lionel Issen <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: Numerical Linear Algebra
> >
> >
> > > Can you tell me if the first site is oriented towards trading or is it
a
> > > strictly linear algebra site?
> > > Lionel Issen
> > > lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "W Lake" <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:59 PM
> > > Subject: Numerical Linear Algebra
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > was not aware of this site of available software. It sure makes
> > searching
> > > > easier <G>
> > > > http://www.netlib.org/utk/people/JackDongarra/la-sw.html
> > > >
> > > > Trefethen and Bau's book looks very ineresting.
> > > > http://www.siam.org/books/ot50/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > I guess someday you really have to graduate to the big matrices <G>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again
> > > >
> > > > Walter
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>