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Bill,

I was extremely impressed with AmiBroker, especially for the price.  The software and support
looks to be outstanding.  Because my needs are primarily centered around intraday data, I didn't
pursue the AmiBroker package.  

Also, my knowledge of NeoTicker is centering on the RT version, as opposed to the EOD version. So
I haven't made a detailed comparison.  I don't necessarily know of one....yet, but I plan on
participating in their forum, and I will ask about the NeoTicker portfolio testing capabilities.

I have found that the RT version will load an unlimited number of bars (much like TS2000i) and can
enter and exit on resting stops and limits.  More importantly for me, I can overlay a tick based
chart (100 tick bars, for example) on 1 minute data and backtest it.  Wow!

I'll keep you posted as I find out more.  If any listmember objects to this Off Topic discussion,
I'll gladly take it off list/private.  Please YELL if this is true.

Don't get me wrong, Metastock is invaluable to my daytrading.  It's the only software package that
I have that will allow me to create a tick composite for the NAZ Mini premium over cash.  This
feature alone has more than paid for my MS Pro!

Dave Nadeau
Fort Collins, CO
 
--- wavemechanic <wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dave:
> 
> Have you made, or know of, a comparison of AmiBroker vs. NeoTicker?  Looking at the websites, it
> appears that both NeoTicker and AmiBroker can both handle script.  AmiBroker seems to be similar
> to Metastock with the added ability to handle multiple stock explorations.  Whereas, NeoTicker
> appears to have a more advanced data collection system and the ability to handle delayed quotes
> during the day.  There are probably other significant differences, but these popped out.  I
> wonder if anyone has done an operating comparison to see if there is any difference in ease of
> use.
> 
> Bill
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Dave Nadeau 
>   To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:55 AM
>   Subject: Re: System testing
> 
> 
>   Philip,
> 
>   Yes, Tradestation is an option.  I currently own TS4 in addition to Metastock.  It does have
> the
>   limitation of looking back at only 13,000 bars, which is fine from an EOD perspective, but not
> so
>   good on 1 minute or 5 minute data.  TS2000i is pricey when purchased new and still a bit
> buggy,
>   but eminently capable for testing purposes.  Recently, Omega (or Tradestation Technologies as
> they
>   are now known) has objected to sales of used Tradestations on eBay, so they've all been
> pulled.
> 
>   You might check out AmiBroker if you are doing EOD work.  Several Metastock users have said
> some
>   very positive things about its capabilities.  www.amibroker.com
> 
>   Another option that I've recently started looking at is NeoTick RT which sells for only $650
> for
>   the realtime version, and $80 for the EOD version. www.tickquest.com  This supports VB and
>   JavaScript which may be an alternative to EasyLanguage.
> 
>   Finally, if you are so inclined, you might consider the Metastock Developer's Kit.  Learning
>   PowerBasic won't be much different from EasyLanguage, or even Delphi (EL is derived from
> Pascal)
>   might not be much different.
> 
>   That said, EL isn't really that difficult to learn.  You'll get deeper and deeper as you need
>   features, but you'll be building on simpler things that make it easy to start.  As an example,
> for
>   your entry, the EasyLanguage code is
>   If YourEntrySignal then buy at High + 1 point Stop;
> 
>   Dave Nadeau
>   Fort Collins, CO
> 
> 
>   --- Philip <pschmi02@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   > Thanks for the speedy reply, Dave. I guess that translates into "time for
>   > Tradestation" for me. I have been hesitating because I dread the learning
>   > curve in TS, and there are still one or two things I'd like to write in
>   > Metastock. Still, I need to enter on a stop and the work-around you describe
>   > sounds even more challenging.
>   > 
>   > Best regards,
>   > Philip
>   > 
>   > Dave Nadeau wrote:
>   > 
>   > > Philip,
>   > >
>   > > Regrettably, no, not in the System Tester.  (I own up through V7.03--based
>   > > on what I've heard about V7.2,it hasn't changed in this regard.)  If you
>   > > really wanted to do this, you're probably looking at writing a .dll in
>   > > Powerbasic, Delphi, or C++ and doing it all outside of Metastock--and
>   > > returning the results to be charted or reported in an Exploration.
>   > >
>   > > Dave Nadeau
>   > > Fort Collins, CO
>   > >
>   > > > -----Original Message-----
>   > > > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > > > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Philip
>   > > > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 7:20 PM
>   > > > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > > > Subject: System testing
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > I am running MS 6.52. When performing a system test, is there any
>   > > > way to enter
>   > > > on a stop the next day? If not, has this been built into any subsequent
>   > > > releases?
>   > > >
>   > > > Philip Schmitz
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > >
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