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MIRAT Long and a Faltering Stoch: A Question


  • To: "Richard Estes" <restes@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: S&P-500 ??? --- Wedge or Channel or ?
  • From: "Steven Buss" <sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 06:13:41 -0800 (PST)

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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Thanks for continuing to beat this drum.&nbsp; 
Keep it up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><BR>Steven Buss<BR>Walnut Creek, CA<BR><A 
href="mailto:sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx";>sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Richard Estes &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:restes@xxxxxxxxx";>restes@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A 
    href="mailto:tombarry@xxxxxxx";>tombarry@xxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:tombarry@xxxxxxx";>tombarry@xxxxxxx</A>&gt;; <A 
    href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Friday, December 05, 1997 6:33 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: S&amp;P-500 ??? 
    --- Wedge or Channel or ?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Patterns are in the eye of the 
    beholder. Indicators are a results of mathematical computations. 
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Richard Estes</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Tom Barry &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:tombarry@xxxxxxx";>tombarry@xxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A 
        href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
        &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>Friday, December 05, 1997 10:56 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>S&amp;P-500 
        ??? --- Wedge or Channel or ?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>Howdy 
        ;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; I wrote a few weeks ago relative to a possible 
        H&amp;S forming on the S&amp;P<BR>500. Well, the Alert is now off. But, 
        others have posted notes alerting<BR>us to a possible ascending wedge. 
        Also , much discussion on wedges.<BR>&nbsp; Well, I reviewed Murphy and 
        Arnold , BUT i dont see a wedge.<BR>&nbsp; I think the confusion between 
        interpretations lies in using different<BR>start/close 
        dates.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; We Metastock users ought to be able to interpret 
        the S&amp;P 500 with<BR>uniformity among our group.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
        Here goes :<BR><BR>1) The SP500 has been in 4 up channels since 
        7/22/96.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * 7/22/96 -- 3/14/97&nbsp; --- 30 
        deg.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * 4/11/97 -- Aug 10/97&nbsp;&nbsp; 52 
        deg<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * Sept 1 -- Oct 8, 97 --- 48 
        deg<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * Current channel --- Oct 25 --- ?&nbsp;&nbsp; 
        -- 49 deg <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ( Dates are approximate)<BR>2) 
        Also there is a Divergence between the SP500 and its RSI (14)<BR><BR>3) 
        Where is the wedge ? I can see a triangle starting in early Oct 
        .<BR><BR>4) What Next ? <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If positive , it will break 
        thru the Major resistance line at 985.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If Negative , a 
        possible triple top will have formed.<BR><BR>&nbsp; Hope this helps 
        .<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
        Tom<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Steven Buss" <sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Metastock-list" <metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
        "jeff f brady" <surfingrincon@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: T/A and Recent US Market Action
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 07:06:54 -0000
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I don't have any statistical evidence for the following statement but my
feeling is that its close to being true.

The T/A folks who were bearish (and right before 10/27/94 but wrong after
10/27/97)--you may remember that I was in this camp so that the stone I
throw is at myself--were/are looking at "Chart Patterns".  But if you're
primarily a "mathematical computation" type, then surely you would have been
looking at weekly/daily MACDs and stochs that would have moderated the
bearishness if not made you bullish from around 11/1/97 through the present.

To put the view I'm coming to baldly, then, a good number of the "Pattern"
folks (and, again, I was/am one of them) just flat out got the post 10/27
picture wrong because the "patterns" weren't (and never are?) enough to get
it right...

I think now I've done my fair share to stimulate more posts to the list.
<G>

Steven Buss
Walnut Creek, CA
sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: jeff f brady <surfingrincon@xxxxxxxx>
To: sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx <sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, December 05, 1997 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: T/A and Recent US Market Action


>You figure this out, let me know, I posed the same question to the group
>a few eeeks ago..
>On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 02:54:40 -0000 "Steven Buss" <sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>writes:
>>A couple questions:
>>
>>-  Anyone else struck by the number of technical analysts who have
>>been
>>bearish (including me, although I'm an amateur) and wrong recently on
>>the US
>>market?
>>
>>-  I've been trying to determine what the technical indicators were
>>recently
>>(since 10/27/97) that should have cautioned me on my bearishness.
>>(I'm
>>putting aside the issue of "long-term" vs. "short-term" here.  The
>>fact is,
>>I was/am very impressed by some massive tops and yet missed a 10% up
>>move in
>>the indices.)  What should I have noticed?  Here's what I have so far:
>>
>>   -   A simple 5,3 Stochastics on the weekly index charts would have
>>been
>>one caution around 11/1.
>>   -   A weekly default parameter MACD signaled something similar
>>about the
>>same time.
>>
>>What else was there?...
>>
>>Steven Buss
>>Walnut Creek, CA
>>sbuss@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
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