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My recollection is that some time ago people started trimming
messages after several folks here were crying the blues about being
in East Podunk and having limited bandwidth.
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Herman van den Bergen"
<psytek@xxxx> wrote:
> If you want to survive in this world you owe it to yourself to
learn about
> computer protection; it is like food on the table.
>
> [Tomasz] Sorry but I don't understand. According to my knowledge
messages
> are NOT trimmed by Yahoo.
>
> My original post actually addressed user bahavior, not technical
list
> organization.
>
> [Tomasz] Yes we can try to re-enable. But the problem is not only
about the
> viruses itself, but rather about the way it is sent. A couple of
attacts
> used spoofed e-mail addresses and the messages appeared (at first
look) to
> be from legitimate users of this list including me.
>
> My NAV catches about 10 infected attachments a week, my weekly scan
finds
> occassional infections that appears to come from web pages, i get
fake
> letters from banks and lottery companies, not only Amibroker :-)
and from
> some very strange people who want to put a million dollar in my
bank account
> :-))) viruses sometimes come in batches, 2 or 3 at a time - it
makes you
> wonder.
>
> Anyway, I was trying to encourage posters to either leave previous
text
> attached or copy selected parts from previous posts to make the
post useful
> on its own. Some wishful guidelines to make your posts more
effective:
>
> 1) Use a descriptive subject line, in general no complains here :-)
> 2) At the end of a series of post summarize the
result/conclusion/code and
> add the word "summary" to the subject line
> 3) Provide a descriptive introduction to your problem/topic in the
first few
> lines of your post
> 4) When replying to a long post copy the question ahead of your
answer,
> anythink at the end will rarily be read.
> 5) If you want to save bandwidth delete the yahoo garbage at the
end of the
> post, and delete early posts that were repeated many times over in
replies.
>
> This list has a great amount of expertise, it is a great source of
ideas and
> excellent code. I am very grateful to all those who take time to
contribute.
> But the list has high volume... so unless contents is easily
accesible it
> will be passed over and key points/ideas are missed.
>
> best regards,
> herman.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@x...]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:26 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as
before????
>
>
> >
> > Hi TJ / All,
> >
> > Just felt the urge to add my 2 cents because I agree with
Herman and
> Corey
> > on both points:
> >
> > 1. Re trimming messages - I know that some people have problems
with
> long
> > messages, but I would suggest that, at least where people are
posting
> > code/formulas for someone, please leave the original request
intact so
> we
> > can tell what the code is for without having to track down the
original
> > e-mail.
>
> Sorry but I don't understand. According to my knowledge messages
are NOT
> trimmed by Yahoo.
>
> If someone, when replying, decides to trim the past correspondence
> manually, it is his/her choice.
>
> >
> > 2. I miss the attachments also. On the one hand, I understand
TJ's
> desire to
> > maintain a high-quality list that people feel safe about
joining. On the
> > other hand, we are missing out on a major component of the list
which,
> to my
> > mind at least, is far superior to going to the boards all the
time.
> After
> > weighing the pro's and con's, it seems to me that the
attachments should
> be
> > turned back on. It does seem hard to believe there are still
people out
> > there that are not aware of the dangers, or still refuse to use
a
> quality
> > anti-virus product (there are even free ones out there!). At
the risk of
> > sounding harsh, it is probably time they learned one way or the
other.
> > People also have the option of not opening *any* attachment
from this
> group
> > if they so choose, while those who protect their computer
responsibly
> and
> > wish to assume the risk would be able to do so.
>
> Yes we can try to re-enable. But the problem is not only about
the viruses
> itself,
> but rather about the way it is sent. A couple of attacts used
spoofed
> e-mail addresses
> and the messages appeared (at first look) to be from legitimate
users of
> this list
> including me. Only checking e-mail headers reveals that e-mail is
spoofed,
> but
> what percentage of people look in the headers? The rest is
trustfully
> opening an e-mail
> that looks like it was from me.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Herman van den Bergen
> >>> To: AmiBroker YahooGroups
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:55 AM
> >>> Subject: [amibroker] Do you find this list as useful as
before????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what others think about this but i find many
posts
> becoming
> >>> useless because they have been trimmed to "save bandwidth"
and/or are
> >>> incomplete. I may see interesting posts but because earlier
text has
> >>> been
> >>> removed they have essentially become noise to me. Of course
the loss
> of
> >>> attachments is a major blow as well.
> >>>
> >>> I really miss the complete (uncut) posts we had before, they
were a
> joy
> >>> to
> >>> read - we no longer have continuity in many topics and i
don't have
> >>> time to
> >>> search/browse/follow-links to find out what it is all about.
> Everybody,
> >>> please make an effort to make your posts a stand-alone item,
i.e.
> >>> include
> >>> earlier text or copy relevant earlier-text to your post to
make it
> >>> meaningful on its own.
> >>>
> >>> I bet many of you, just like me, are missing out on many
wonderful
> ideas
> >>> and
> >>> applications that were reduced to noise in the pursuit of
brevity and
> >>> bandwidth.
> >>>
> >>> It is not a sin to use bandwidth if it helps you to get the
point
> across
> >>> or
> >>> make things more clear for the reader!!!!
> >>>
> >>> many thanks,
> >>> herman.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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