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attach is an excel spread sheet that contains some REAL value
 
low p/e
high profit margin
low debt
an increase each q in earning
increase each year in earning
same for sales
 
now
who is to say that the street recognize the  gems in the  pile and pick them?
only time will tell
Ben
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Value_Oasis] Re: MSN Screener

Tom
Have you read John Marksman book that he wrote around 1999? There were several value screens. The message board is all but dead now http://moneycentral.msn.com/community/message/board.asp?board=MoneyCentralSuperModels
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:25 PM
Subject: [Value_Oasis] Re: MSN Screener

Welcome Chuck,

Evidently not since I'm not even clear on what you have in mind when
you write about "when Moneycentral was an active board."  I have seen
their several pre-defined screens as well as oodles of screens at
Vectorvest and at some of the freebie screening sites (some of which
are on the LINKS tab of both the Prospector and the DSL).

It seems to me that the trick isn't in finding screens or even screens
that someone or other is quite proud of having written.  For me, the
trick is finding screens that provide a high hit rate on stocks that
are both stable and otherwise sound.

The entire topic of finding such screens, however, is less interesting
to me now than it was, say, six months ago.  Then, I hadn't yet found
a list of stocks that met the criteria.  Now, with the DSL's list, I
personally feel that I have a stock universe (albeit small) that is
sufficient.  On most weeks, I'm able to find four to sixteen stocks
that are in a conservatively-figured buy range.

Rather than concentrate on finding more stocks (though good ones are
ALWAYS welcome), I am personally more interested in paring down the
DSL by raising the bar.  But, as is ALWAYS the case with me on most
things, that is a backburner priority.  I know I'll get to it.  I am
not so sure when.  Maybe, I'll just chip away at it every time I
update the DSL and handle it that way.

Best,

Tom

--- In Value_Oasis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "CHUCK & BONNIE" <WILLIS_C@xxxx>
wrote:
> Tom
> I'm new to the club and haven't read any posts to speak of. I've
been in the process of moving. Are you aware of all the scans that
were used in the past when moneycentral was an active board??
> Chuck
> =========================
> Evidently not since I'm not sure of what you mean about "was an
active board."  I'm aware of the pre-canned scans that are there now.
And, I've seen oodles of scans in VectorVest and precanned scans at
other screening sites.  The trick isn't in finding scans or even in
finding scans that someone is very proud of.  The trick is in finding
scans that provide a high hit rate on the high stability stocks which
we're looking for.  Or, to avoid pretending that I'm licensed to write
for others, "which I'm looking for."
>
> The issue is, to me, less interesting than it once was before the
DSL stocks were identified (a pretty good starting place that usually
has four - sixteen stocks that -- by my calculations -- are within a
buy range.  But, others seem to want to find more, which is fine by me. 
>
> In terms of the DSL, I'm actually going to shrink the list by
raising the bar as time goes on.  But, as is always the case for me
with everything other than my current top priority, that's for another
day.
>
> ; ^ )
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tom Richards
>   To: ValueOasis
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:40 PM
>   Subject: [Value_Oasis] RE: MSN Screener
>
>
>   Following is a note sent to me from Randy Harmelink
>   before I reopened the site to posts.  I'm a little
>   slow getting it posted, but it's here now.
>   ===================================================
>
>   I agree that Mozilla doesn't work with it, but I use
>   the URL below to get directly to the Deluxe Stock
>   Screener in IE.  In fact, it opens the screener with
>   the last screen I used.
>
>     
>   http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/finder/customstocks.asp
>
>   Unless maybe you have cookies turned off?  [You bet.]
>
>   This brings me to the point:  If you've developed a
>   value-oriented  screen for the MSN screener that
>   others might find useful, how about sharing it here?
>   [I'm not sharing enough?!  In any event, I believe
>   I've already indicated that I'll be looking at
>   screeners and perhaps some screens too in future
>   issues of OHC.  But, I don't have a screen that
>   correlates especially well with the WIT.  I'm sure
>   we've got others here who can devise screens with as
>   much skill as I can.  Perhaps they'll share while
>   you're waiting for my two cents.  It would be
>   especially useful if they'll also share why the screen
>   they're sharing might be of general interest. I've got
>   a whole bunch of screens -- just don't feel that any
>   of them are especially meritorious. - TR] 
>
>   Actually, there are export and import options under
>   the File menu.  They use an *.IFF extension to for the
>   external criteria files.  For example, here is one:
>
>   <HEADING>7.0
>   <QUERY>"ScreamVoom",0,25,0,-1
>   <DESC>""

<QSTRING>SV1QF234Z04L100000000ZF3Z04L5ZF115Z04L10000ZF3Z04L0.9F231MZF215Z04L0ZF215Z05F319ZF114F116DZ04L1ZF114F116DF156MZ01
>
>   If I export the results (and note that you can choose
>   which columns of data get exported for the list of
>   stocks) of the screen to EXCEL, it shows that the
>   screening criteria translates to:
>
>       Rating >= 8
>       P/E Ratio: Current >= 0.1
>       P/E Ratio: Current <= 99.9
>       % Price Change Last 6 Mos. >= 60
>       EPS Growth Next 5 Yr High As Possible
>       P/E Ratio: Current/EPS Growth Next 5 Yr Display
>   Only
>
>   And I asked for the default "StockScouter Rating"
>   variables, which are:
>
>       Symbol
>       Company Name
>       Rank
>       Rating
>       P/E Ratio: Current
>       % Price Change Last 6 Mos.
>       EPS Growth Next 5 Yr
>       P/E Ratio: Current/EPS Growth Next 5 Yr
>       Size
>       Sector
>       Style
>       Fundamental Grade
>       Valuation Grade
>       Technical Grade
>       Ownership Grade
>       Risk Expectation
>       Return Expectation
>       Market Cap Market Preferences
>       Sector Market Preferences
>       Growth vs. Value Market Preferences
>
>
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