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Calculate in the indicated manner . Your words about
the other side of the trade are what I need to focus
on. As always, thanks a lot for your kindness.

Regards


Rakesh

--- "mr.ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Establish an entry price to enter the trade rather
> then support resistance.  Make sure that the setting
> for the stochastic is set to the half cycle of the
> cycle that you are trading.  i.e.  22 bar cycle
> stochastics first number should be 11.  Always count
> cycles from low to low, never high to high due to
> translation of the highs. 
> 
> Remember that there are always two trades on any
> chart.  One up and one down.  If you are entering
> long determine ahead of time what would signal the
> entry to a trade in the opposite direction.  
> 
> The first thing you want to know is what will make
> your discussion wrong.   You don't want to get
> panicked in a market and start to mentally defend
> your position and the trade that you entered.  I am
> not talking about a stop determination I am talking
> about a trade that is going your way.  What would be
> the entry price for a trade in the opposite
> direction?  Trend or contra trend.  It might not be
> worth trading but it might pay to exit your current
> trade and re-enter on the next leg up or down. 
> 
> Hope that this helps a little.  Have a good week
> end.  Ira. 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Rakesh Sahgal 
>   To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:50 AM
>   Subject: Re: [RT] S&P
> 
> 
>   Thats what I have been doing for the past year odd
>   buying weakness in uptrend and selling on my price
>   target and missing the peak 2 to 3% each time, but
>   this time I screwed up big time expecting more
>   weakness when it was already weak. Thank my lucky
>   stars that I dont trade futures-just stocks, else
> I
>   would have been in big trouble by now. Analysis
>   paralysis is what I went through.
> 
>   Ben, Ira a question - How do you know "IN TIME"
> when a
>   price move is the real deal and not a fade? I look
> for
>   price validating the signal(I just use the
> stochastic
>   in addition to PitchForks and the periods for
>   stochastics vary according to the last confirmed
> cycle
>   length in the issue) by follow up action i.e
> closing
>   above the signal high. Is there anything more that
> one
>   can look for? 
> 
>   Regards
> 
> 
> 
>   R 
> 
>   --- "mr.ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>   > Ben:
>   > 
>   > Everyone enters and exits their trades based
> upon
>   > the system they use.  I would exit based upon
>   > reaching price objectives and then confirmation
> from
>   > my two indicators.   I prefer selling into
> strength
>   > rather then being stopped out due to weakness. 
> I
>   > liked to give it to them when they screamed for
> them
>   > and buy when they were dumping them.  Whom ever
> they
>   > might be.  
>   > 
>   > At this point there is no position to defend and
> all
>   > that is required to re-enter the market is a buy
> or
>   > sell signal. 
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Ben 
>   >   To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   >   Cc: ntt-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
>   > e-mini_traders_anon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   >   Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:12 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [RT] S&P
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Hello Ira
>   > 
>   >   the 2 most important warning sighs are:
>   >   a: new high new low  did not improve last 2
> days
>   > with higher prices,
>   >   b: McClellan osc for issues and vol are
> showing
>   > bearish divergence,
>   >   As you know   , My belief  about taking
> profits is
>   > Very important,
>   >   this is why I called my 2 main indicators ,
> one
>   > profit index and one long term trading,
>   >   Both  measure profits at different time
> frames,
>   >   my sell is cash close under 1212
>   >   p/c is still pointing higher, and so is
> volume,
>   >   set back  is just 2-3 days to 1180
>   >   then new highs,
>   >   Ben
>   >     ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >     From: mr.ira 
>   >     To: real traders 
>   >     Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:56 AM
>   >     Subject: [RT] S&P
>   > 
>   > 
>   >     This rally is over.  I don't know what is
> going
>   > to kill it, but today should be the last day
> with a
>   > retracement on Friday.  Let us see how that
> works
>   > out.  
>   > 
>   >     I don't have a sell signal, just a warning
> that
>   > it is time to take profits.  Ringing the cash
>   > register is the name of the game.  Like a very
> wise
>   > old timer said, "  I will give someone else the
>   > first 10% and the last 10% as long as I can get
> that
>   > 80% in the middle".  The indication now is to
> take
>   > the 80% and sit back and wait for the next
> signal. 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >     Ira. 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >
>  
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