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size=2>Hmmm...  I take it you're running Win 98 or ME?  Therein lies 
your problem.
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I have 
stayed away from Win 98 like the plague, so can't help you very much.  I'm 
sure if you do a Google search you can find some sites about freeing Win98 
system resources.
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The 
best advice I have for you is to dump Win98 and upgrade to Win2000 or 
WinXP.  Win95/98/ME are all disastrous operating systems, and I would 
never entrust my trading to any of them.  I design software for a living, 
and I can't tell you how much time we've wasted fixing problems that occur under 
Win98, where the same exact function works just fine under NT, 2000, or 
XP.  We now require our customers to use a real operating system (i.e. 2000 
or XP) if they want support.
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When 
Bill Gates spoke at the product introduction of Win XP, he actually publicly 
apologized for the ongoing stability problems of 95/98/ME.  That should 
tell you something...
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<SPAN 
class=152184221-25112002> -----Original Message-----From: 
Sean Cassidy [mailto:scassidy@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, November 25, 
2002 12:24 PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
[RT] TS 2000i ....slow data

  Ok i think I found the problem.....I only have 
  14% of resources free, so how do I fix?
   
  Thnaks for all the help.
   
  SMC
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
    <A title=DavidRNews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:DavidRNews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Merlin_Turtle 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:06 
    PM
    Subject: RE: [RT] TS 2000i ....slow 
    data
    
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Sean,
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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    As 
    a programmer, it tells me that the indicator has been coded 
    inefficiently.  Without seeing the code, I can't be more specific, but 
    there are some standard mistakes I see over and over again leading to 
    inefficient EasyLanguage code.  For example, very often I see code 
    where some particular calculation is repeated over and over again with 
    the same parameters, instead of calling the function once, storing the 
    result in a variable, and then referencing the stored value as 
    necessary.  
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>High-level languages like C++ or Delphi have "optimizing compilers" 
    that will automatically analyze the code and find the most efficient way to 
    implement it.  TS does no optimization by itself.  So it's up to 
    the programmer to think through what the code is doing and find the most 
    efficient way to get it done.  Doing this well can make a huge 
    difference in the ability to actually run an indicator in real time.  
    
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    If 
    you're willing to share the code with the group, I and others can take a 
    look at it and make suggestions.  If not, you either need to learn how 
    to do this kind of optimization yourself, or find someone who will do it for 
    you.  I agree that your computer should be more than adequate to run 
    virtually any indicator if it's efficiently programmed, and throwing more 
    hardware at the problem is not the best way to solve it.
    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Wait - there's one other possibility.  What is the CPU usage on 
    your machine (Task Manager in Win NT/2000/XP) when *nothing* is 
    running?  You may have some other process running on your machine that 
    is eating up all your processing cycles.  For example, I've seen old 
    DOS programs running under Windows that will do an infinite loop while 
    waiting for a keystroke.  They "eat" the entire CPU in the process, 
    slowing down all other running applications enormously.  When there is 
    no other activity, your CPU usage should show as close to 0% - if it's still 
    high, then that's the source of your problem.
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    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>  Merlin
    
      <FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Sean Cassidy 
      [mailto:scassidy@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 
      11:38 AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
      [RT] TS 2000i ....slow data
      so that tells you....even if i have it turned 
      off, that this program is too much for my pc?.....the no indicator set to 
      every tick function?
       
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        ----- Original Message ----- 
        <DIV 
        style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
        <A title=prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="mailto:prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>M. Simms 
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 
        1:12 PM
        Subject: RE: [RT] TS 2000i ....slow 
        data
        
        Wait a 
        minute...I am running with a cheap, old AMD 800 mhz 
        processor......quote.com emulator, e-mini (NQ 1min, 15 min; ES 3 min, 15 
        min, and 100 other symbols in real time. 3 workspaces, about 50 
        indicators and systems, etc. in total are 
        running.
        OK, today 
        is a slow day, but the Task Manager stats are:
        AVG CPU 
        USAGE: 5%
        PEAK CPU 
        USAGE: 15%
        MEM 
        USAGE: 150MB
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        Key fact: 
        NO INDICATORS SET TO "UPDATE EVERY TICK". <SPAN 
        class=340530618-25112002>For that "feature", 
        then YES, you will need to upgrade.
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          <FONT face=Tahoma 
          size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ray Raffurty 
          [mailto:r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 
          11:33 AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
          Re: [RT] TS 2000i ....slow data
          Upgrade that 
          turkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!
           
          <A 
          href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=s450-3022&SRCCODE=WEM378Z";>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=s450-3022&SRCCODE=WEM378Z
           
          Here is a link to a computer using an AMD 
          XP-2000 (1.66 GHz actual clock speed) processor for 
          $260.00.  This is a "bare bones kit" which means that it does not 
          include drives ( hard, floppy, CD or DVD).  You simply unplug 
          your existing drives and install them in your new computer (not hard 
          to do). It also does not include Video card or modem.  The 
          modem you have is probably fine unless it is very old, however the 
          video card is probably junk unless you have recently up-graded 
          it.  You need at least a 64 Mg. card ($49.95) for graphic 
          applications such as charting.  It includes 124 MB DDR memory and 
          is upgradeable to 3 GB!!!!  An additional 256 MB of memory 
          is $70.00.  <A 
          href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=tc1-ddr-256";>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=tc1-ddr-256  
          You can add 2 of these if you wish or go to 512 MB for $173 each <A 
          href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?sku=K43-1904";>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?sku=K43-1904 and 
          keep an open slot for future addition.
           
          The advantage of a "bare bones 
          kit", besides the low price, is that since you are keeping your 
          existing hard drive the new computer will immediately have all your 
          programs, files, old e-mails, links, shortcuts, in other words 
          everything, loaded.  The disadvantage is you will need to 
          plan to have a weekend available to swap the drives.  It will 
          probably take less time but allow 2 days just in case.
           
          Back up everything.  You should not 
          have any problems but if an accident occurs (drop the hard drive and 
          it's a door stop) it is better to be safe.
           
          Now you just have to convince the wife 
          you REALLY need a new computer instead of that gold necklace. One 
          bad trade because of a slow (or frozen) computer will cost you more 
          than the $400.00 spent to upgrade.
           
          Good luck and good trading,
           
          Ray Raffurty
           
          P.S.  I have no association with 
          Tiger Direct except as a customer.  Also they have other kits and 
          complete computers that might suite you better so check out the web 
          site.
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            ----- Original Message ----- 
            <DIV 
            style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
            Sean 
            Cassidy 
            To: <A 
            title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            
            Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 
            10:37 AM
            Subject: [RT] TS 2000i ....slow 
            data
            
            I am using TS 2000i on a Pentium 700 
            machine on a chart with a fairly big and complicated els file that 
            is good at identifying trends. The size of the file seems to slow 
            down the drawing of the chart. The chart is usually a few minutes 
            behind the actual price. I know it is the els file that is slowing 
            it down because a blank chart seems to work fine. I recently 
            upgraded from 240 to 640 mbs of memory and that did seem to help, 
            but only a little. A friend has the same study on a machine with 
            less memory and it seems to work Ok. Its too bad because the 
            siftware has been very helpful.
             
            Any suggestions?
             
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