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Unemployment/employment is a characteristically lagging indicator according
to many economists. Stock prices are a characteristically leading
indicator.
This is my understanding.
Dan
>From: "Kent Rollins" <kentr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [RT] High is in
>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:52:46 -0500
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>The news was similarly bad DURING the 91-92 recovery. After the recession
>had bottomed, companies would announce more layoffs and their stocks would
>go up. People got really mad about this, but most of the layoffs never
>materialized. The bottom is in atleast until we get more sustained bad
>economic news.
>
>Kent
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: M. Simms
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [RT] High is in
>
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>BE CAREFUL ABOUT SHORTING MONOPOLIES....
>Verizon is one of them.
>But heck, the economy is improving, right ?
>WRONG:
>1) Cigna slashes profit targets thru 2003 and COLLAPSES 38% in one day!
>2) AOL overstated revenue by $190 million over the past couple of years.
>Probably not very bullish.
>3) BMY will restate earnings downward for parts of 2000 and 2001.
>Bristol-Myers said it will reallocate more than $2 billion in sales.
>4) Delta to cut 7,000-8,000 jobs
>5) SUNW to cut another 4,400 jobs
>6) Duke Energy to cut 2,000 jobs
>7) UAL to cut 1,250 jobs
>8) Kodak to cut up to another 1,700 jobs
>9) Lucent will lop off another 10,000 jobs soon
>10) Michigan consumer sentiment...WORST in 9 yrs
>11) Possible War?
>12) Durable goods? 3 1/2 times WORSE than expected
>13) Leading Economic Indicators...4th weekly DECLINE
>14) Philly Fed. report-EIGHT times WORSE than expected
>15) Consumer confidence...WORST in 9 years
>16) Tommy Hilfiger to close most U.S. stores (jobs vanish)
>17) Corning to cut another 2,200 jobs
>18) Boeing to cut another 1,500 jobs
>19) EDS to cut another 1,000 jobs...
>20) GDP lower than expected
>21) Chicago PMI much WORSE than expected at 45.9
>22) Monthly jobs 200% worse than expected
>23) ISM WORSE than expected & confirms economic contraction
>24) Factory orders WORSE than expected at -2.3% vs. -1.6%
>25) Applied Materials to cut another 1,750 jobs
>
>What did I miss ? Wait ! I forgot, Bush is overhauling his lackluster
>administration....AFTER the elections.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BobsKC [mailto:bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:12 PM
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [RT] High is in
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>
> At 07:54 PM 11/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
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> Yeah, what is "up" with Verizon.......over 40% since October 1st ????
>
> Look at the PE .... wireless is flattening off .. I can't see it.
>If one "needed" to own a RBOC, I would take SBC, but ..........
>
> Big day tomorrow .. should be a few good swings .. good luck to all
>
> Bob
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BobsKC [mailto:bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:19 PM
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [RT] High is in
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>
> Good call and most important, a public prediction to perk up our
>list and make it ever more interesting. Thank you Jim, Ben and all of you
>who have offered your trades for consideration. I hope more will join in.
>I shorted1K of VZ today at 39.80 and carried it. (Doesn't really count
>since I'm already in the trade but wanted to get participating with this
>post). :))
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> Bob
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> At 04:03 PM 11/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> Great call Jim
> keep up the good work
> Ben
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim White
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:57 PM
> Subject: [RT] High is in
>
>
> On a 30 minute chart, The Near Impulse forecaster had a turning
>point for 1:00 EST. Chances are the high is in for the day. A short below
>the first 30 minute range is still possible.
> Jim White
> PivotTrader.com
> Home of the Near Impulse Forecaster
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