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- Style="border-left: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> ----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: Ira Tunik To: <A href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:12 Subject: Re: [RT] WHY...Trading Profession Carping????? If this is what you are looking for then read Steidlmayer on the Markets, J.Peter Steidlmayer, Publisher John Wiley & sons. My current psychological problem is trying to understand what is the pattern that constitutes the moment of departure from the current balance point? What I got out of Research's gif is the red lines are lines that contain a balance in buyer's and seller's. then it goes skewed and balance is lost. Regards, Don Thompson Subject: Re: [RT] WHY...Trading Profession? > What you want is a million dollar education for nothing. I don't think so. Ira > > BobR wrote: > > > Dear Research dept, would you please do a brain dump on this lowly wannabe > > regarding entries on the NQ and ES ? Specifically he and a few others would > > like to read your treatise on timing the entry and various techniques you > > would employ in catching a trend in its infancy. Particularly address the > > pre and post period 8:30AM CT with its risks and rewards. What time frame > > or tick frame would you advise? What techincal approach would you use, > > swings, xovers, trendline breaks, something exotic? What we are talking > > here is Texas style gunslinging where trades move like singing bullets. > > Feel free to be as verbose as you want. A diatribe is desired. > > > > thanx > > bobr > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Research Dept." <research@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "Gentle Ox" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:57 AM > > Subject: Re: [RT] WHY...Trading Profession? > > > > > Hello Gentle, > > > > > > GO> Why is it that everyone thinks that they can be a successful trader? > > > > > > i never set out to be a trader, in fact i thought you had to live in > > > ny or chicago. in fact i do not consider myself a trader now, i love > > > research, and just figuring out things in general. i have studied > > > people as much as i have studied the markets and come to the > > > conclusion that most loose because they are gamblers rather than > > > analyst. analyst on the other hand mostly are failures at trading > > > because they rely upon validation of some for or another. > > > > > > GO> What is it that motivates so many people to want to trade? > > > > > > i hate to trade, i only do so to finance my research and my computer > > > hardware/software addiction. this is the way i separate myself from > > > becoming involved with something i don't like to do trade. i do not > > > get a thrill if i make money and i don't worry at all anymore if i > > > loose. learning to take losses was the hardest thing i ever > > > accomplished. > > > > > > GO> Is it the money? the ego? the testeroserone? something else? > > > > > > for me its the thrill of figuring it out.. finding something that can > > > be validated in black and white as working. i honestly have no desire > > > about the money other than to pay what very few bills i have. i live > > > very meagerly (except for equipment) because i know it can all be lost > > > if i'm not careful. i am not inspired by wealth but rather knowledge. > > > > > > GO> And why do so many people feel they can learn the game in such a shot > > amount > > > GO> of time? > > > > > > i was the same. i thought i knew how to trade until i went to work > > > programming for someone who was a real trader. there i learned the > > > business of surviving as a trader and to not take anything personal. > > > trading really is a business, like any other except its better. i > > > could pick anything in life to do the 3 i narrowed it down to was > > > biological, market and gambling research. > > > > > > anyway it took me a good five years to learn while working for a > > > specific trader. i spent many more years programming for other > > > successful traders. i figured no one was going to tell me what i > > > needed to know about how to make a living trading. so i set out to > > > steal the knowledge by pretending to be a contract programmer. so i > > > kept my mouth shut (for a while) listened and observed every move, > > > making very detailed notes about events i would only understand latter > > > in time. stopping here for now.. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Research mailto:research@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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