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>One of the reasons I do not follow the fib %'s
is that when you take into account all the >levels of %'s, the price action
is bound to turn on or near one of the %'s. its still a >guessing game
when it come right down to it.
That is a very key and telling
statement! The market retraces usually to certain levels and, more
often than not, spot on or pretty close to a Fibonacci level. That is a
fact. Which one, is always the question, is it not?!!
The answer lies in the price action, movement and
pattern as the market approaches, and, through one or another of these facets,
shows you what it is going to do. You are not always in tune with the
market and it is not possible for you to be so. Because of this, you have
to have a money management scheme which allows you to be wrong more often than
you are right - and still come out on top. It is as simple or as difficult
as that... and once again, it is sometimes simple and at other times
difficult, but you can trade the concept and you can make money, once you know
what you are doing, when the market is doing what it is doing...
Fun, ain't it?
And, for the hell of it, I am attaching that gif
again and hoping... it is only 17.9KB
Bill Eykyn<A
href="mailto:t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxx<A
href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com"Learn to read
the tape"
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Merkley, Steve
To: <A
href="mailto:'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx'"
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 8:01
PM
Subject: RE: [RT] Forecast Review
Norman,
When you state that "both lows coincided with a
planet turning either retrograde or direct", it sounds like the same
problem. I really don't want to sound negative because I have not
studied astro trading, and I believe that you are a successful trader,
but it seems that almost every other day a planet will go retrograde or direct
and it now starts looking a lot like the fib %'s. Which planet going
retrograde or direct is going to be the one that turns the market and in hind
sight the price action is bound to turn on one of those events, but which one,
it is still a guessing game when you come right down to
it. So give me your address so I can send you $30 and
lets start to study this out and prove my negative theory wrong.
Thanks
Steve merkley
-----Original
Message----- From:
Norman [SMTP:nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <FONT face=Arial
size=2>Sent: Wednesday,
November 01, 2000 1:44 AM <FONT face=Arial
size=2>To: <FONT face=Arial
size=2>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx <FONT face=Arial
size=2>Subject: <FONT
face=Arial size=2>[RT] Forecast Review
RT,
I hope no one minds my reposting
this information. Some times much can <FONT face=Arial
size=2>be learned with the benefit of hindsight. Please note that the
S&P 500 cash made its low at 1306 on
October 18 and there was a retest of the lows on <FONT face=Arial
size=2>October 26. Both lows coincided with a planet turning either
Retrograde or Direct. Now in
hindsight, we can see the signficance of these points.
Please see previous post and chart below.
Retrospectively,
Norman
----- Original Message ----- <FONT
face=Arial size=2>From: "Norman" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Software - Pattern
Smasher
> >
----- Original Message ----- > From:
"Phil" <rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx> >
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:37 PM <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> Subject: Re: [RT] Software - Pattern Smasher <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> >
> > <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > >
Maybe you are one of the few that is correct 100% of the time. If
you > > are not one of the richest
men in the US. then maybe it is just an <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> illusion? >
> NW: No where did I say that I was one
of the richest or that I was right >
100% of the time. > Why must this
approach be 100% accurate or its invalid? No other market
> approach is put to that standard.
Most traders would be thrilled to find <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> something that offers them a marginal edge 60% of the time. I
think this > approach has the
potential to signficantly exceed that expectation. <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> >
Cheers, > <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> Norman > <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> >
> >
"Phil" <rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
> >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx> <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 2:40 PM <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >Subject: Re: [RT] Software - Pattern
Smasher > > > <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > > "I knew 8 years ago that
turning points could not be known ahead of <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> time > > >and I
still know it. If > >
>> they could, some traders would almost never have a losing
trade" > > > <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > > >
> >Phil, > > >
> > > Check your
ephemeris. Mercury turned Retrograde Oct. 18, 2000, 9:41
> AM >
> >ET, at 15-45 Scorpio which equals 225-45 degrees on the
Zodiac. 3 cycles <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> of > >
>360 degrees is 1080 degrees. Add 225-45 + 1080 = 1305-45 or in
decimal > form <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >1305.75. What was the time and price of the
low for the cash S&P 500 on > >
>October 18, the most recent swing low? <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > > >
> Still skeptical? Of course! Say that was hindsight?
Ok, Uranus will > turn
> > >Direct at 16deg.54min. Aquarius or
316-54 on the Zodiac on October 26, >
2000, > > >at 11:23 AM. Uranus
rules electronics, > >
>computers, broadcasting, etc. Look for a key change in trend for
the > market <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >led by those market sectors at that time.
Primary harmonic for the S&P >
will > > >be 1396. Other major
harmonics for that time are: Outer planet (i.e. <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto)
Directs and Retrogrades usually
> > >generate a change in trend for the
market within one day of the <FONT face=Arial
size=2>planetary > >
>event. > > >
> > >180 = 1216 <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >120 = 1276 <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > 90 = 1306 <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > 60 = 1336 <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > 60 = 1456 <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > 90 = 1486 <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >120 = 1516 > >
>180 = 1576 > > >
> > > Please note that the Uranus
Direct is less than one degree of being a <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >square (90 degrees) to Mercury Retrograde at 15-45
Scorpio thereby > >
>reinforcing the harmonics generated by the previous planetary
retrograde. <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >Let's see if there is anything to this or perhaps the
past 30 years of my <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >research has been an "illusion" Conversely,
if it looks as it has merit,
> are >
> >you willing to follow the "yellow brick road"? <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > > >
> > > > >Good
Trading, > > > <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >Norman Winski <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > > >
> > > > <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >. >
> >What was the l > >
> > > > <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > > >
> > > > > <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > > >
> >----- Original Message ----- <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >From: "Phil" <rhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >
>Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 2:40 PM <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >Subject: Re: [RT] Software - Pattern Smasher
> > > <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > > > >
>> > > >>
> > >> Better be
carefull of what you wish for. Seems "Omega" may be
doing >
> >the > > >> same
thing. Have a product then offer a new product and not support
> the >
> >> older product. It seems they may even go to internet
only and not > support
> > >> the stand alone stuff in the
near future? Lets hope not. That giant <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> step > >
>> forward seems to cost the ones (little guys) who are paying for it
a > lot. <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >> Of course the companies sell the new stuff for
more money. > >
>> Also read in an earlier post that it now looks like NP
was sold as an <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >> illusion? The maker of the
software seems to have said that looking <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> back > > >> it
was just an illusion as far as trading turning points. I say
stay > away <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >> from illusions. Even if you think
they work. > > >>
I just don't like that kind of giant steps, especially if I am
paying >
> >for > > >> those
giant steps, after I paid for the baby steps in the first <FONT
face=Arial size=2>place. > I
> > >> also wouldn't be to fond of
paying for something that is now being <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> called > > >> an
illusion that doesn't work. > >
>> Enough of this stuff. Not all, but most of the stuff
sold is junk, > and <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >we >
> >> just have to live with it. Buyer beware. And don't
expect a refund > even
> > >> if the stuff have been shown
to be an illusion. I knew 8 years ago <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> that > > >>
turning points could not be known ahead of time and I still know it.
> If >
> >> they could, some traders would almost never have a losing
trade. > > >>
> > >> At 11:06 AM 10/22/00 EDT, you
wrote: > > >> > I'm not
one for posting much in a group. How every, this talk about <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >Pattern <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >> >Smasher, and NP. Has brought me to the point I
want to say something > > >>
>concerning Mr.Ed Kasanjian. > >
>> > > > >> > His
comments about the software, has restored my faith in man kind,
> and >
> >his > > >>
>workings to gain better understanding and trying to move ahead,
> through <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >his > >
>> >experience and knowledge base. <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >> > I believe that, Mr. Ed Kasanjian has made a
giant step forward, and > "we"
> > >as <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >> >traders should encourage him to move forward
in his abilities for > writing
> > >a <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >> >better program based off of his studies and
experience. > > >> > Just
wish companies like "Omega" would take a giant step forward,
> they <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> > >may > >
>> >learn a thing or two. >
> >> > > > >>
>One last thing I would like to say, I would really like to
see, > "Pattern <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >> >Smasher" <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> > >> >up graded to a windows base, using
C++ or VBA Programing. > > >>
> > > >> >Happy Trading
to all. > > >> >
> > >> >Randy Cole
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