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I was looking for it too. He published a work flow chart on how to develop a
strategy and when he is entering the MM. Unfortunately the search function
of the forum does not support this, so even I could not find it a reasonable
amount of time. 

I did search for "money" in the title and found many various discussions
about position sizing or money management. 

Sorry for the trouble and for not finding it again. BTW, you don’t need to
register just to read or search the forum. 

If I find it again I get back to you. 


Regards,

Volker Knapp
(www.wealth-lab.com)


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Gesendet: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:21 AM
An: 'Volker'; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: RE: Money management/leveraging - varying position size to control
risk/enhance profit

Thanks Volker.

I went to the wealth lab site, registered and checked for posts by "Twiga".
However, I didn't find anything on Money Management.

Would you be kind enough to send a link please?

-Ian

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From: Volker [mailto:volker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2005 4:47 PM
To: 'ip'; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Money management/leveraging - varying position size to control
risk/enhance profit


Answers below...

Kind regards,
 
Volker Knapp
(www.wealth-lab.com)
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ip [mailto:icp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:47 AM
To: 'Volker'; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Money management/leveraging - varying position size to control
risk/enhance profit

Thanks Volker,
That seems sound, to be wary of curve fitting at this layer as well as with
the strategy optimization.  The layering effect can be a trap I think -
stick an overoptimized money management strategy on top of a perfectly good
entry/exit strategy and the entry/exit strategy becomes a waste of time.

The criteria I had in mind when testing MM runs like this;
A: Ensure that the same MM parameters provide similar benefit on the same
entry/exit strategy for a number of single symbols.  This is what you are
getting at, yes? [VK] 
Yes.

B: Ensure that there is a smooth curve for a given metric amongst a range of
inputs for a single symbol.

"A" above is intended to be able to infer whether the effects of the MM
strategy are due to the strategy itself rather than the effects of MM
parameters specific to that particular curve. IE, keep all things equal,
change the symbol, if the effects are similar, then it's likely due to the
strategies in place. [VK] 
Or use different parameter with the same MM setting.


You mention using related markets.  What do think of using unrelated markets
with less chance for correlated price movements?

"B" above is intended to guage the robustness of the approach.  If a minor
difference in parameters creates wildly different results, there can't be
much faith in a particular MM strategy/parameter combination. [VK] 
I am afraid that if your strategy makes money in the SP for example that it
will hardly make any money in the OIL future.

What do you think?  Are there further possibilities for avoiding
over-optimzation of a money management strategy?  Are there any particular
MM strategies you are a fan or a skeptic of? [VK] 
I always like what we call RiskPercentStop. Only risking a certain
percentage in relation to your equity in dependency of you stop. I think
some one suggested it here already.

I know that someone posted a long explanation on our forum on how he sees
the process of system development, optimization and money management support
with charts and scientific explanation recently. If you wish you can take a
look at it. The posting of this person are really worth reading from the
beginner to the very advanced user. 

Since I am flying right now I can not give you the exact link, just go to
www.wealth-lab.com, follow the link to the forum, search for posting by the
user with the name "twiga" and you should find it. To read the posting you
do not need to register. If you wish to participate and post you can
register which is free of charge.

Hope it helps you to make more profitable trades.

Volker