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Re: Re[2]: ergodic indicator - text version



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Fleisher" <r5_6fpen8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:07 PM
Subject: Re[2]: ergodic indicator - text version


> "Woodies room."  There are times when radiation from Yahooligan sheepland
> reaches this list.  And here we go again.  All this talk about
> "Woodies room."  There are two types of people: people who are sheep,
> and people who THINK.
>
> Tuesday, December 2, 2003, 10:52:52 AM, you wrote:
>
> BS> Hi Alex,
>
> BS> As the note in the indicator says, it is only plotting the average.
William
> BS> Blau also uses the faster line (which is not plotted) for crossover
> BS> indications.
>
> BS> The fellow in Woodies room (which emphasizes the CCI) uses this
ergodic as
> BS> an indication of trend, as you point out.
>
> BS> I agree that there are many ways to skin the cat to determine trend,
and
> BS> this was one way that moderator chose to confirm a trend.
>
> BS> Regards,
>
> BS> Barry
>
>
> BS> ----- Original Message ----- 
> BS> From: "Alex Matulich" <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> BS> To: "Barry Silberman" <Barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> BS> Cc: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> BS> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:09 PM
> BS> Subject: Re: ergodic indicator - text version
>
>
> >> Thanks Barry, for posting the text version.
> >>
> >> After looking at the code, it seems to be one of those things that,
> >> like any other indicator, sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
> >>
> >> This is nothing more than a moving average crossover, using daily
> >> price change rather than price as the input, smoothing it with a
> >> steep-rolloff (and high lag) lowpass filter (EMA of an EMA of an
> >> EMA), then smoothing that result (value1) with a normal EMA (to get
> >> value2) and indicating when value1 is higher or lower than value2.
> >>
> >> All it seems to tell you is that closes have been higher in the
> >> past, or lower in the past.  As such, it's good for determining if
> >> the market has been trending up or down.
> >>
> >> What it has to do with ergodic dynamical systems or ergodic theory
> >> escapes me.
> >>
> >> Replacing the TXAverage with a T3 Average might improve it somewhat.
> >>
> >> -Alex
>
>
>