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Typical Random walker. Proved his ignorance completely. Nearly anyone on this list can tell you where the Dow will be five days from now at 9:00 am EST. Please go away. Go back to class and get out of school and into the real world. Jimmy Friday, January 10, 2003, 1:13:41 PM, you wrote: Brent> Hey, I've got a random trade generator built right into my software. It's Brent> about as successful as all other trader and trading systems are. Where is Brent> the 100% proof of non-random markets, or what would prove that they are Brent> non-random? Brent> Oh, and last I heard anyone on this list has as much right to say what they Brent> want, as you do. Brent> I know that randomness can be proven. Can non-randomness be proven? Brent> If you doubt it, just tell me what the exact price of the Dow will be 5 days Brent> from today at 9:00est. Brent> Could the truth be that the markets are both random and non-random? I guess Brent> that you didn't think of that. Brent> On a cloudy day you can see shapes in the clouds, like ships, faces, flying Brent> saucers, etc. What ever you can imagine, and like many others you can read Brent> tea leaves, or see patterns on charts but until you can define your proof Brent> you can prove nothing. Brent> Brent Brent> re: Could the random walk people please take a long walk elsewhere. I've Brent> never known a random walker that could make money in the market. Brent> They are full of intellectual BS and no show for the money. Take it Brent> elsewhere. If you know that little about the market then find another Brent> trade (pun intended). If you don't see market patterns then find Brent> something else to do. Brent> Jimmy