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RE: BE CARREFUL With DTN you get the Tick data , but NOT the NEWS with Global Server of TS 2000 !!!!!



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There is something wacky about delay problems with DTN.  Like Roy I have
been using DTN satellite since spring 99.  There is no delay in DTN stock
quotes.  My ticks match my broker perfectly and when I buy stocks at the
market I get the ask displayed by DTN virtually every time.  If you have
delay you have a hardware or software setup problem.  You must have a high
speed serial port set to 460,800kbps or you will loose ticks.

There is a horrendous problem with DTN however - Market Stats.  You cannot
chart or use market stats like NYSE Total vol or ADv/DEc Vol or Adv/Dec
Issues in formulas.  This is because DTN transmits mkt stats in composite
symbols (several values under one symbol instead of separate symbols).  Thus
you cannot use Total volume in any way or compute and advance decline line.
DTN and Omega have refused to fix this problem to date.  I had a similar
problem with S&P Comstock but they fixed it by breaking out thier stats into
separate symbols.  I have called and written to DTN many times.  They have
ignored me completely and never even acknowledged my correspondence.
Amazing how arrogant data vendors are.

Bill Wood

> -----Original Message-----
> From: attila_antal@xxxxxxx [mailto:attila_antal@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 10:26 AM
> To: Omega-List; evrard_eng
> Subject: RE: BE CARREFUL With DTN you get the Tick data , but NOT the
> NEWS with Global Server of TS 2000 !!!!!
>
>
> I wonder where quote.com gets their feed? Bridge? I use MyTrack
> level II and
> the ticks only jibe about half the time. Discrepancies seem to come in
> waves.
>
> Attila
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: omega-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:omega-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of evrard_eng
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 10:08 AM
> To: Johanson, Roy; 'Attila Antal'; Omega-List
> Subject: Re: BE CARREFUL With DTN you get the Tick data , but NOT the NEWS
> with Global Server of TS 2000 !!!!!
>
>
> Hi ,
>
> When I compare , I have the same tick between Internet tick
> (quote.com) and
> DTN
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Johanson, Roy <Roy.Johanson@xxxxxxx>
> To: 'Attila Antal' <attila_antal@xxxxxxx>; Omega-List
> <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 11:35 AM
> Subject: RE: BE CARREFUL With DTN you get the Tick data , but NOT the NEWS
> with Global Server of TS 2000 !!!!!
>
>
> > I've been using DTN with ts2k since last spring with absolutely no
> problems
> > concerning the DTN service. The satellite dish and DTN's box
> are a snap to
> > set up. The quotes are exactly or a second or two delayed from what my
> > broker has and the tick counts are way more than what I see posted here
> from
> > some other data vendors. Also, I haven't experienced and service outages
> > from DTN either. Any "outages" were caused by ts2k and even these have
> been
> > considerably reduced as of SP3.
> >
> > The only problems came from ts2k interfacing with the DTN box. A high
> speed
> > serial port is a must to get the maximum transfer rate (460KB)
> between the
> > DTN box, the PC's serial port and Global Server. You can check
> here for a
> > better serial port:
> >
> > http://www.pacificcommware.com/texport.html
> >
> > If you're using SP3, then any lag time between the time the symbol is
> added
> > to Global Server and receiving a current quote has been corrected. This
> was
> > not a problem with DTN. It was a problem with the way Global Server
> > passively sent information to the DTN box.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attila Antal [SMTP:attila_antal@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 10:16 AM
> > To: Omega-List
> > Subject: RE: BE CARREFUL With DTN you get the Tick data , but
> > NOT the  NEWS with Global Server of TS 2000  !!!!!
> >
> > Hi guys. I've used DTN SAT for the 2 months with miserable results.
> > My
> > 30-day trial has expired but I'm still getting the hell out. The
> > main
> > problem is the lag. Service says its bridge and they working on it.
> > When
> > will it be fixed? We don't know. This has been going on for over a
> > week.
> > Unless you have a second source for real time data you wont even
> > know that
> > you are getting screwed. I guess get what we pay for, cheap service.
> >
> > Attila
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: omega-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:omega-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of evrard_eng
> > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 4:22 PM
> > To: Fred
> > Cc: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re:BE CARREFUL With DTN you get the Tick data , but NOT the
> > NEWS
> > with Global Server of TS 2000 !!!!!
> >
> >
> > Hi Fred,
> >
> >
> > Yes with DTN , you get real time data. They are good quality for a
> > good
> > price : only 140 $ a month depending on the type of exchange
> > you ask. (it was about 500 to 600 for pc quote satellite)
> >
> > Furthermore, at DTN, they ask you nothing for the installation and
> > they
> > give you 30 days to try (At Pc quote , they was asking 2500 $ for
> > installation.). Their Hot Line, (of DTN) are good quality service.
> >
> > I just had to pay the cost of the shipement only if I kept the
> > system for
> > more than 30 days. I had to buy separatly a fast serial port(80
> > dollars)  to
> > be in connection with receiver box. I did my installation myself ,
> > it was
> > not complicated , but you have to make sure that you have the room
> > (4by 4
> > feets minimum) and the orientation for the antenna.(SW if you are on
> > the
> > east coast)
> >
> > The speed of the connection between the receiver box and the
> > computer is 460
> > 000.
> >
> > But , be carreful Fred, because, you can't get the news if the
> > global server
> > of omega, receive the tick data . For the moment, DTN , propose the
> > Cameleon, which get the news and the data, but not the global server
> > of
> > Omega. Omega did not finish this development part.
> >
> > I am using DTN only for the tick. You can't share the serial port on
> > two
> > software, but DTN propose a development kit  if it was necessary .
> >
> > Emmanuel
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Fred <srqblue@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: evrard_eng <evrard_eng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 3:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Award Was: Anyone using Option Station?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:15:15 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > >I am using DTN and Prostation 2000 , it's working well
> > >
> > >Emmanuel
> >
> > Thanks for the info.  I expect to be moving from BMI-cable TS 4.0 to
> > DTN-SAT/TS2K.  The main reason for this is to get more current real
> > time options, tick and tiki reports, mostly the options data.  Do
> > you
> > have any experience in these areas?  I understand that the I-net
> > version of DTN, because of the lower bandwidth of the data stream,
> > will have more data stripped out during busy times than the
> > satillite
> > version.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > "Success is the only test of genius" -R.Adm Daniel Gallery 1901-1977
> >
>
>