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The advantages of VectorVest are two. The data handling is much better with
all stocks downloaded at once and much more easily available. They are also
divided into sectors and industry groups. The second is that fundamental
data is supplied which gives one much more information to work with. In most
other respects MS is far superior.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Adair
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 9:43 PM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: vectorvest


Vector  vest was used by a number of our canslim club in Dallas  for a while
but now only a few mention it. It had some value but metastock  by far the
best. It wont last long if you use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of David DeFina
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:10 AM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: To MetaStock Re: Portfolio Tester

Neo:

I Have a copy of VectorVest, but haven't been able to find any 3rd party
recommendations on its usefulness.  I didn't want to waste time on something
that doesn't have value.  They say they've called every major market turn
for so many years, but I couldn't tell if that was from back testing or real
time?  Have you had a good experience with it, or know of a group of happy
users?  Thanks, Dave D.


ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of neo
Sent: Dec 22, 2000 5:45 AM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: To MetaStock Re: Portfolio Tester

Take a look at VectorVest.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David DeFina
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:05 PM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
Importance: High


I second the suggestion of being able to system test multiple stocks at
once.

It would also be nice to run an "expert" report on multiple stocks and have
a summary page print with commentaries, etc.

Dave DeFina
ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Bill Irwin
Sent: Dec 21, 2000 12:38 PM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator

How about making it an option that a user can choose to turn on, or not.  I
know with a 600 Mhz P3 I'd far rather have my Explorations take twice as
long than spend all the extra time applying attributes after the fact.  The
faster the PC the less impact on the user.

Thanks for giving us some faint hope here.  While we're at it, any chance at
all that we'll see a System test that can work on a portfolio of stocks?
What I visualize is a stock level report screen that shows the most
profitable stock from the run.  A double click on the stock would take us to
the current report screen with all the permutations, if optimization was
used.  This would be an excellent way of finding the stocks that respond
well to a particular System.

Thanks again for the input.

Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of PD Manager
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:55 AM
> To: 'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
>
>
> J.
>
> Hint taken.
>
> We have been exploring this possibility for quite awhile.  It
> MAY possibly
> show up in a future version, but I'm making no promises.  The
> problem with
> adding the capability to manipulate attributes in a formula
> (color, style
> etc) is that it will slow down the native number crunching
> capability of the
> formulas.
>
> If we add this ability to the formula language, it will only
> be done if we
> can minimize the impact on basic mathematical operation performance.
>
> Ken Hunt
> Programming Manager
> Equis International
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j seed [mailto:jseed_10@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:05 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
>
>
> Dave,
> I am completely lost with your explanation. I know that I can plot a
> multicolored oscillator...green for increasing and red for
> declining simply
> by using an if statement to plot or not plot(value zero).
> This works with an
>
> oscillator simply because I can plot to a value of zero. I
> can also plot a
> third indicator simply by adding a moving average into the
> formula. This
> still requires that I manually select the colors that I
> desire for each and
> yes I can simply this operation by assigning all of this to a
> template.
> But...I still cannot assign the color in the formula which is
> what I thought
>
> the question was(wouldn't that be nice! Metastock can you
> take a hint?).
> Beyond this point your explanation has me lost. So...if you
> don't mind would
>
> you give us some more detail?
>
> J.
>
>
> >From: Dave Nadeau <dave_nadeau@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
> >Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:18:50 -0700
> >
> >Bill,
> >
> >There is a faster way.  You'll need to use a very structured
> approach.
> >
> >Start with a custom formula with three lines which are
> something like this:
> >
> >LineA:=<time period one>;
> >LineB:=<time period two>;
> >LineC:=<time period three>;
> >Mov(C,LineA,S); Mov(C,LineB,S);Mov(C,LineC,S)
> >...
> >
> >You can later change these to OPT1, OPT2, and OPT3 in your
> system test.
> >
> >Build your next formula based on the first, and give signals
> for enter,
> >short, exit, etc. as 1,2,3,4 or something like that.
> >Then a third formula(Indicator3), based on the second, would use
> >Barssince(<your long signal>)<Barssince(<your short signal>) AND
> >Barssince(<your long signal>)<Barssince(<your exit signal>)
> = 1 for long or
>
> >=-1 for short and =0 for out.
> >
> >Then you can create a fourth custom indicator based on this,
> the equity
> >line.   This one says, Cum(If(Indicator3=1,Open-Ref(Open,-
> >1),If(Indicator3=-1,-1*(Open-Ref(Open,-1),0).
> >
> >Now you've got four indicators based on those three variable
> definitions
> >which are easy to change.  You can run an exploration with
> >this equity line to guage the performance across a portfolio
> of stocks.
> >
> >You can write an expert that is based on the formulas and a
> template.  Your
>
> >arrows for exits and entries as well as the lines
> >themselves will adjust whenever you go back to adjust those
> three first
> >lines of the first indicator.
> >
> >You can also run a new exploration once you've adjusted
> those three values
> >in the formula.  You can do this as many times as you'd
> >like.
> >
> >I hope this explanation makes sense.  I'm happy to clarify.
> It is quicker,
>
> >but still has some manual steps.
> >
> >Dave Nadeau
> >Fort Collins, CO
> >
> >12/20/00 10:53:21 AM, "Bill Irwin" <Bill-Irwin@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks Frans & Steve for the suggestion.  Maybe if I'd more fully
> >explained
> > >what I'm doing perhaps another method is available, and
> would be better.
> > >I'm working on a System that's based on this triple plot.
> I'm going to
> >be
> > >optimizing the values of this triple MA and, after the
> test, observe the
> > >most profitable scenario.
> > >
> > >What I'd really like is for the System tester to plot the
> triple MA (in 3
> > >colours) along with the Buy/Sell/Exit signs so that I can
> see the MAs
> > >crossing at these triggers.  As it is, it appears I'll
> have to apply the
> > >Triple MA Coloured Template, then adjust the lengths of
> the MAs to match
> >the
> > >winning System (after digging into the winning System to
> see the values
> >of
> > >OPT1/2/3 in a window that can't be sized to avoid the
> extra step and time
>
> >of
> > >scrolling).  This doesn't make for a speedy review of a
> given System
> >across
> > >many charts.  Of course, having to run the System test on
> each individual
> > >chart (rather than on a selection, as in an Exploration)
> is what really
> > >takes the time.
> > >
> > >If there's a faster way of doing this, please advise, and
> thanks again.
> > >
> >
> >Dave Nadeau
> >Fort Collins, CO
> >
> >
> >
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