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Dave I tried VV for 6 months and did not renew the subscription. I found it
slow, included too many low price stocks which cluttered up the screen and
search, the charts were useless to me, and the formula possibilities
essentially a joke. In my version, I could print only the entire screen
which spilled over into too much paper. So, I switched to TC2000 which
satisfies me for clean data, fundamental and technical searches, chart
customizing, comments and is exportable to MS, and others  for further TA
study.
Norm  Wiss
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David DeFina" <ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: To MetaStock Re: Portfolio Tester


> Neo:
>
> I Have a copy of VectorVest, but haven't been able to find any 3rd party
> recommendations on its usefulness.  I didn't want to waste time on
something
> that doesn't have value.  They say they've called every major market turn
> for so many years, but I couldn't tell if that was from back testing or
real
> time?  Have you had a good experience with it, or know of a group of happy
> users?  Thanks, Dave D.
>
>
> ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of neo
> Sent: Dec 22, 2000 5:45 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: To MetaStock Re: Portfolio Tester
>
> Take a look at VectorVest.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David DeFina
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:05 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
> Importance: High
>
>
> I second the suggestion of being able to system test multiple stocks at
> once.
>
> It would also be nice to run an "expert" report on multiple stocks and
have
> a summary page print with commentaries, etc.
>
> Dave DeFina
> ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Bill Irwin
> Sent: Dec 21, 2000 12:38 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
>
> How about making it an option that a user can choose to turn on, or not.
I
> know with a 600 Mhz P3 I'd far rather have my Explorations take twice as
> long than spend all the extra time applying attributes after the fact.
The
> faster the PC the less impact on the user.
>
> Thanks for giving us some faint hope here.  While we're at it, any chance
at
> all that we'll see a System test that can work on a portfolio of stocks?
> What I visualize is a stock level report screen that shows the most
> profitable stock from the run.  A double click on the stock would take us
to
> the current report screen with all the permutations, if optimization was
> used.  This would be an excellent way of finding the stocks that respond
> well to a particular System.
>
> Thanks again for the input.
>
> Bill
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of PD Manager
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:55 AM
> > To: 'metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
> >
> >
> > J.
> >
> > Hint taken.
> >
> > We have been exploring this possibility for quite awhile.  It
> > MAY possibly
> > show up in a future version, but I'm making no promises.  The
> > problem with
> > adding the capability to manipulate attributes in a formula
> > (color, style
> > etc) is that it will slow down the native number crunching
> > capability of the
> > formulas.
> >
> > If we add this ability to the formula language, it will only
> > be done if we
> > can minimize the impact on basic mathematical operation performance.
> >
> > Ken Hunt
> > Programming Manager
> > Equis International
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: j seed [mailto:jseed_10@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:05 AM
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> > I am completely lost with your explanation. I know that I can plot a
> > multicolored oscillator...green for increasing and red for
> > declining simply
> > by using an if statement to plot or not plot(value zero).
> > This works with an
> >
> > oscillator simply because I can plot to a value of zero. I
> > can also plot a
> > third indicator simply by adding a moving average into the
> > formula. This
> > still requires that I manually select the colors that I
> > desire for each and
> > yes I can simply this operation by assigning all of this to a
> > template.
> > But...I still cannot assign the color in the formula which is
> > what I thought
> >
> > the question was(wouldn't that be nice! Metastock can you
> > take a hint?).
> > Beyond this point your explanation has me lost. So...if you
> > don't mind would
> >
> > you give us some more detail?
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> > >From: Dave Nadeau <dave_nadeau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: RE: Setting colour on a multi-plot indicator
> > >Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:18:50 -0700
> > >
> > >Bill,
> > >
> > >There is a faster way.  You'll need to use a very structured
> > approach.
> > >
> > >Start with a custom formula with three lines which are
> > something like this:
> > >
> > >LineA:=<time period one>;
> > >LineB:=<time period two>;
> > >LineC:=<time period three>;
> > >Mov(C,LineA,S); Mov(C,LineB,S);Mov(C,LineC,S)
> > >...
> > >
> > >You can later change these to OPT1, OPT2, and OPT3 in your
> > system test.
> > >
> > >Build your next formula based on the first, and give signals
> > for enter,
> > >short, exit, etc. as 1,2,3,4 or something like that.
> > >Then a third formula(Indicator3), based on the second, would use
> > >Barssince(<your long signal>)<Barssince(<your short signal>) AND
> > >Barssince(<your long signal>)<Barssince(<your exit signal>)
> > = 1 for long or
> >
> > >=-1 for short and =0 for out.
> > >
> > >Then you can create a fourth custom indicator based on this,
> > the equity
> > >line.   This one says, Cum(If(Indicator3=1,Open-Ref(Open,-
> > >1),If(Indicator3=-1,-1*(Open-Ref(Open,-1),0).
> > >
> > >Now you've got four indicators based on those three variable
> > definitions
> > >which are easy to change.  You can run an exploration with
> > >this equity line to guage the performance across a portfolio
> > of stocks.
> > >
> > >You can write an expert that is based on the formulas and a
> > template.  Your
> >
> > >arrows for exits and entries as well as the lines
> > >themselves will adjust whenever you go back to adjust those
> > three first
> > >lines of the first indicator.
> > >
> > >You can also run a new exploration once you've adjusted
> > those three values
> > >in the formula.  You can do this as many times as you'd
> > >like.
> > >
> > >I hope this explanation makes sense.  I'm happy to clarify.
> > It is quicker,
> >
> > >but still has some manual steps.
> > >
> > >Dave Nadeau
> > >Fort Collins, CO
> > >
> > >12/20/00 10:53:21 AM, "Bill Irwin" <Bill-Irwin@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks Frans & Steve for the suggestion.  Maybe if I'd more fully
> > >explained
> > > >what I'm doing perhaps another method is available, and
> > would be better.
> > > >I'm working on a System that's based on this triple plot.
> > I'm going to
> > >be
> > > >optimizing the values of this triple MA and, after the
> > test, observe the
> > > >most profitable scenario.
> > > >
> > > >What I'd really like is for the System tester to plot the
> > triple MA (in 3
> > > >colours) along with the Buy/Sell/Exit signs so that I can
> > see the MAs
> > > >crossing at these triggers.  As it is, it appears I'll
> > have to apply the
> > > >Triple MA Coloured Template, then adjust the lengths of
> > the MAs to match
> > >the
> > > >winning System (after digging into the winning System to
> > see the values
> > >of
> > > >OPT1/2/3 in a window that can't be sized to avoid the
> > extra step and time
> >
> > >of
> > > >scrolling).  This doesn't make for a speedy review of a
> > given System
> > >across
> > > >many charts.  Of course, having to run the System test on
> > each individual
> > > >chart (rather than on a selection, as in an Exploration)
> > is what really
> > > >takes the time.
> > > >
> > > >If there's a faster way of doing this, please advise, and
> > thanks again.
> > > >
> > >
> > >Dave Nadeau
> > >Fort Collins, CO
> > >
> > >
> > >
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